On 2014-11-20 10:26, Scarlett Clark wrote:
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:21:41 AM Ralph Janke wrote:
On 2014-11-20 09:34, Harald Sitter wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]>
>
> wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:17:33 PM Harald Sitter wrote:
>>> fwiw if only we had a policy to deal with dead upstreams....
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Scott Kitterman
>>> <[email protected]>
>>
>> wrote:
>>> > Ktorrent is the current default torrent client that we provide in
>>> > Kubuntu.
>>> > Now that we've transitioned to Plasma 5, it's no longer
>>> > buildable/installable in "Vivid".
>>> >
>>> > The upstream web site is down: http://ktorrent.org/
>>>
>>> ^ that wouldn't be the qualifier on whether it suffers from dead
>>> upstream
>>>
>>> > I looked in KDE git and there's no sign of a KF5/Plasma 5 port:
>>> > https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent/repositor
>>> > y
>>>
>>> ^ that wouldn't either
>>>
>>> > My conclusion is that ktorrent isn't an option for Vivid, so we either
>>> > need to stop shipping a torrent client or pick a different one.
>>>
>>> ^ those wouldn't be the primary options
>>>
>>> food for thought
>>
>> JR fixed it, so it's not an immediate issue.
>>
>> IMO it wasn't so much a dead upstream issue as a no longer works with
>> Plasma 5
>> issue. The dead upstream just made that less likely to get better on
>> its own.
>
> my point is that there is no dead upstream, as no one tried to talk to
> upstream (nor brought it to the attention of the large kde developer
> community).
The question is IMHO if you could ever consider an upstream dead. By
definition
this would mean that it would never become alive again. However, in
Open
Source,
anybody can pick up the source and so a new group of people can take
over the
maintenance without anybody else being able to prevent it.
So I would rephrase this question. How would you consider that a
source
is
obsolete in the sense that there is a better one the replaces the
first
one
and it does not make sense to put any kind of work in it anymore. Or,
if
it
is still a valid choice, how to create the helpful flow of information
that
allows people to step forward to keep it maintained.
Just an FYI Ktorrent is next on the Gardening team to do. We were able
to get
a new release with k3b and sparked new life into it. Please don't deem
Ktorrent dead just yet.
Scarlett
So, How would I be able to contribute to the gardening of ktorrent
without
spending a lot of time with administrative stuff? While I am passionate
about
writing software, I have grown tired with the administrative hurdles in
Open Source projects and currently rather started my own projects which
I
can just work on whenever I like to. However, I am willing to give it
another
try with ktorrent (or other similar things) if it helps.
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