On Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:04:54 AM Ralph Janke wrote: > On 2014-11-20 10:26, Scarlett Clark wrote: > > On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:21:41 AM Ralph Janke wrote: > >> On 2014-11-20 09:34, Harald Sitter wrote: > >> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> >> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:17:33 PM Harald Sitter wrote: > >> >>> fwiw if only we had a policy to deal with dead upstreams.... > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Scott Kitterman > >> >>> <[email protected]> > >> >> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > Ktorrent is the current default torrent client that we provide in > >> >>> > Kubuntu. > >> >>> > Now that we've transitioned to Plasma 5, it's no longer > >> >>> > buildable/installable in "Vivid". > >> >>> > > >> >>> > The upstream web site is down: http://ktorrent.org/ > >> >>> > >> >>> ^ that wouldn't be the qualifier on whether it suffers from dead > >> >>> upstream > >> >>> > >> >>> > I looked in KDE git and there's no sign of a KF5/Plasma 5 port: > >> >>> > https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent/reposi > >> >>> > tor > >> >>> > y > >> >>> > >> >>> ^ that wouldn't either > >> >>> > >> >>> > My conclusion is that ktorrent isn't an option for Vivid, so we > >> >>> > either > >> >>> > need to stop shipping a torrent client or pick a different one. > >> >>> > >> >>> ^ those wouldn't be the primary options > >> >>> > >> >>> food for thought > >> >> > >> >> JR fixed it, so it's not an immediate issue. > >> >> > >> >> IMO it wasn't so much a dead upstream issue as a no longer works with > >> >> Plasma 5 > >> >> issue. The dead upstream just made that less likely to get better on > >> >> its own. > >> > > >> > my point is that there is no dead upstream, as no one tried to talk to > >> > upstream (nor brought it to the attention of the large kde developer > >> > community). > >> > >> The question is IMHO if you could ever consider an upstream dead. By > >> definition > >> this would mean that it would never become alive again. However, in > >> Open > >> Source, > >> anybody can pick up the source and so a new group of people can take > >> over the > >> maintenance without anybody else being able to prevent it. > >> > >> So I would rephrase this question. How would you consider that a > >> source > >> is > >> obsolete in the sense that there is a better one the replaces the > >> first > >> one > >> and it does not make sense to put any kind of work in it anymore. Or, > >> if > >> it > >> is still a valid choice, how to create the helpful flow of information > >> that > >> allows people to step forward to keep it maintained. > > > > Just an FYI Ktorrent is next on the Gardening team to do. We were able > > to get > > a new release with k3b and sparked new life into it. Please don't deem > > Ktorrent dead just yet. > > Scarlett > > So, How would I be able to contribute to the gardening of ktorrent > without > spending a lot of time with administrative stuff? While I am passionate > about > writing software, I have grown tired with the administrative hurdles in > Open Source projects and currently rather started my own projects which > I > can just work on whenever I like to. However, I am willing to give it > another > try with ktorrent (or other similar things) if it helps.
Gardening is a great project, no commitments required. All help is welcome. You can find more info here: https://community.kde.org/Gardening Thanks, Scarlett -- Scarlett Clark Kubuntu Developer KDE Contributor IRC: sgclark Email: [email protected]
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