I hope this message is in plain text format (I didn't know the reason for the added tags; thanks for telling it; this problem is new for me). But if the messiness continues in this message also, please, disregard it. Thanks.
> I don't know if and what difference there is between the current 'hy' > translation and the most common ortography (is it the "Modern"/USSR1940 > Armenian orthography, or something else?) and the proposed hy-RU, but > please resolve this dispute in a sensible manner. No difference. And yes, the most common Armenian orthography is the "modern"/USSR1940 one. I have already sent an extensive explanation to Samvel and am not going to discuss the issue of Armenian locales any more. I sent that message without including [email protected] address to save you from reading my long messy messages. Best, Seda 12.07.2019, 20:15, "Eike Rathke" <[email protected]>: > Hi Stamboltsyan, > > On Friday, 2019-07-12 15:13:25 +0400, Stamboltsyan Seda wrote: > >> <div>Samvel,</div><div> </div><div>Your explanation is a mess. What you >> have explained about hy_AM is the following:</div><div> </div><div>"<span >> style="font:small monospace">For hy_AM/hye_AM the Institute of Language and >> Ministry of Education of RA have not yet made the official decision. There >> is an ongoing work on unified orthography, after completion of which, it >> will also be implemented under this code. For now we will use either IR or >> RU variant for this (subject to discussion with the >> min-edu)."</span></div><div><br />There is NO "ongoing work on unified >> orthography", as you say. And hy_AM has been used for all these years for >> the Eastern Armenian (that is, the main language of ARMENIA) with the main >> orthography used in Armenia. You write: "For now we will use either IR or RU >> variant for this". Really? Who has decided that? Have you asked the opinion >> of all the other Armenians of Armenia who are going to use LibreOffice or >> any other application localized for Armenia?</div><div> </div><div>Once >> again: the locale name hy_RU for Armenian of ARMENIA is not correct, whether >> it is used by your organization or some others also. A full stop. Don't >> attach the name of Russia to the Armenian of Armenia. And there is NO >> separate Armenian for the Armenians of Russia, which means there just can't >> be any separate locale for Armenian used in Russia.</div><div> >> </div><div>Please, don't insist on the wrong decision of minority (like you) >> against the already established and correct hy_AM.</div><div> >> </div><div>S.</div> > > (Btw, could you *please* teach your mail client to send proper plain > text as the text/plain message body? Thanks.) > > To explain why such crux workaround is necessary from the technical side: > > There are 5 variants to write Armenian, as per > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116058#c2 > but only 4 distinct language tags. Omitting A.2) 'axm' there leaves us > with 4 variants and 3 distinct language tags. To resolve that from > a *technical* point it was addressed with commit > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=01d9d5b491d03004b3690c2a1ff4d99997e02a5a > which as possible tags added hy-RU and hy-IR. > > This has nothing to do with attaching Armenians to Russia or whatsoever. > This is a technical workaround solution, not a political one. > > If the IANA language tag registry knew distinct variant subtags for the > different ortographies then all this wouldn't be a problem. To properly > solve this best would be to request such variant subtags, see > http://langtag.net/register-new-subtag.html > > I don't know if and what difference there is between the current 'hy' > translation and the most common ortography (is it the "Modern"/USSR1940 > Armenian orthography, or something else?) and the proposed hy-RU, but > please resolve this dispute in a sensible manner. > > The 'hy' tag default locale is of course hy-AM and whatever the most > common ortography used with Eastern Armenian as used in Armenia is > should be translated under the 'hy' tag. > > Eike > > -- > GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
