I left another group because it was unmoderated.  I don't like 
what's going on here so I'm leaving this one...

--- In [email protected], "milly*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi to both of you and everyone who has been reading this unfolding 
saga.
> 
> To put you all the picture  My name is Milly*   I am English and  
I have lived in South Australia now for 32 years I think, I have had 
2 Labradoodles one tragically died 11 months ago at the age of 21 
months, my present dog is Rupert Bear who will be 1 year old 
tomorrow , June 3rd, ..[ the land of Oz is almost a day in front, so 
I'm awake whilst most of you are asleep.]
> A little while ago I tried without success to trace the owner of 
our group as it was becoming obvious she might need some help with 
our growing list, I am an older woman with plenty of time on my 
hands so I offered to help moderate this list with her, I wrote to 2-
3 different places traced her to a baby group but still without 
success,  I then contacted Yahoo who advised that all I could do was 
to keep trying to contact her which I have done, my reason was not 
in anyway to upset anyone within this group but to ensure that it 
continued, I have belonged to other lists and left because I started 
to dislike the content that sometimes arrived, I used to receive  
bad mail in one of my groups that stupidly I left open and 
unmoderated, I would hate that to happen here
>  So to sum up I opened Mylabradoodle as an offer of a moderated 
group for you all, if it continues it will be exactly as this one 
with just a few nice differences like pictures of our dogs on the 
home page, etc and anyone who I feel that has stepped over the line 
a little will go on moderation until I have written to them 
personally , I do not suppose I will be able to stop everything 
coming thru  the first time, but it won't be without trying.
> I am in no way connected to TeaganManor I do not even know who the 
person is  do you? 
>  I do hope this has helped clear up any confusion
> MyLabradoodle will be open for a month or two to see if there is 
any interest, if not .....well I'll work that one out when I come to 
it.
> Hugs 
> milly*
> 
> 
> Smiles.   I believe Karen was referring to TeaganManor in her 
letter
>   m*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Ken Hix 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:14 AM
> Subject: [labradoodles] Re: Australian Labradoodles
> 
> 
> With all due respect Karen, I must say that I belong to many 
groups 
> and have been invited to a lot of them via groups to which I 
> previously belonged, and I continue to belong to those groups. 
While 
> some of those invites said "With the Moderator's permission I'd 
like 
> to invite members to join my new group", it was also apparent to 
> Milly and most of us that there was no longer a moderator for this 
> group. I was almost ready to leave this group myself many times 
> because I'd open my mail just to get an advertisement such as on 
> message 1297 that is inviting me to refinance my home. I've stayed 
> only because of the great members in this group and the knowledge 
> I've learned from them. I wish that someone like yourself would 
take 
> over the moderator's position. Again, I respect your feelings, but 
> please don't take offense to Milly's invite. I think there is room 
> for both Labradoodle groups.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "karenchaos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Please note that I have nothing against closed-membership 
groups.  
> I 
> > have initiated them myself.  However, I have never marketed them 
on 
> > other groups, nor tried to recruit members from other groups.  
The 
> > manner in which this invitation was issued was ostrasizing at 
its' 
> core 
> > and divisive to the original group.  Usually, individual 
> invitations 
> > are sent to those members of the group that you think would like 
to 
> > join the new group.  It takes some time and research but it 
shows 
> > respect to the original group.
> > 
> > I also have no problem with my mutt being a breed unto itself.  
I 
> > consider Labradoodles to be a breed, however, the official, 
> sanctioning 
> > canine community does not.  Oh well, their loss.  This 
information 
> does 
> > not minimize how I feel about my dog.  Just because I see him as 
> > brilliant, gorgeous, and otherwise adorable doesn't make him a 
> > true "breed" and I'm OK with that.  He fits my requirements.  
> > 
> > I knew I would raise some ire in posting the message and while I 
> > appreciate the input it generated, I stand by my original 
message.  
> The 
> > invitation to the new AUSSIES ONLY group was exclusionary and 
> elitist 
> > and could/should have been handled differently.
> > 
> > Karen
> 
> 
> 
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