Lynn In certain types of bobbin lace one does push the pins all the way down. This is done specifically in free/part laces such as Honiton, Duchesse and tape laces. The reason is that you constantly change directions as you work and sometimes work over parts already finished. You have to get the pins out of the way. In doing torchon on a roller pillow there is no need to push the pins all the way down, and not doing so saves time. Lorelei
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