I am working on a Chantilly fan and I am thinking about pins. None of my lace books talk about this subject. I have three boxes of pins: 38 x .40 mm long and thin 30 x .50 mm --> my usual <-- 17 x .45 mm short and thin Recall that Chantilly is a "you can never have too many bobbins" sort of lace. This particular piece uses about 85 pairs and is I guess is about 7 footside per cm {17 footside per in). Since previously my maximum was 50 pairs and I worked at 14 ft/inch, you see that I am being ambitious. Also, I do not actually know how to make Chantilly, so I am pretending it is Bucks Point. This piece is very simple and consists mainly of large blocky half-stitch figures and ground. Method might be relevant, so I say that I am using a big octogonal block pillow (9 blocks, corner blocks are triangles, blocks move in all directions). It is 23 inches wide. This is my main pillow; almost all my lace exercises have been done on it, from the very beginning up until now. The bobbins, all spangled Midlands, lie flat on my pillow while I work( ie hands-down). I hate it when the ends of the bobbins dangle off the end of the pillow. I always pre-prick. Since I can only actually work with 10-15 pairs of bobbins at a time and Bucks Point usually uses more than that, I need a way to get rid of all those extra bobbins. I use spring stitch holders, which are thin plastic rods with stretchy metal closures. They hold about 9 pairs, 10 if I push it. All my unused bobbins are bound in holders and thrown over to the left and right top sides of the pillow, out of the way of my working area. When I started I used holders even when I only had about 15 total pairs since it is so nice to really focus on the particular motif I'm working on, secure in the knowledge that the unused bobbins can't possibly become disarranged. Besides, they need to go in holders anyway when I finish my session and put the pillow down. Preparing for my new Chantilly project, I became worried that my usual pins were too thick. The holes in the pricking are so close together! Surely they are about as close as the diameter of a pin. So I decided to try smaller pins. I bought the short and thin box and started the lace. The short and thin pins didn't last more than two rows of lace. They were horrible, absolutely horrible to use. The threads kept on looping over the tops of the pins and becoming disarranged. After two painstakingly tedious rows I gave up and went to my usual pins. It was such a relief to no longer have to intensely concentrate on my threads' not hopping and to just zip quickly along, lacing away. So I decided that maybe short pins are bad for Chantilly/Bucks Point. Maybe when you have any type of lace that uses lots of bobbins which need to be thrown back and stacked, then short pins are bad because the threads of the thrown-back bobbins naturally rise up a little and so loop over short pins. Could this be true? So I bought a box(actually, tube) of the long and thin pins. When I got them I was disappointed becuase there weren't very many of them (about 150) and they were so thin that they hurt my fingers when I pushed them in. I contemplated my pricking more carefully. It seemed to me that in fact my usual pins could be used in the ground (17 ftsd/in, remember), although it does make for a particularly impenetrable pin thicket--no possible way of spotting mistakes until they get out of the thicket. The problem was the half-stitch figures, which in many places were almost twice as dense as the ground (ie two half-stitch pins for every ground stitch that goes in and out). So I decided to use the long and thin pins for the figures and my usual pins for the ground. That way my fingers got a bit of rest from pushing the thin pins and I wouldn't use very many thin pins at a time so I wouldn't run out. What made this idea particularly feasible is that the difference in the lengths of the pins meant I could easily distinguish between the two types when I was reaching into the thicket for a new pin. So, just as I finished off the starting rows of the fan and approached my very first figure, I switched to the ground->usual, figure->thin method. Now it is several weeks later and everything has worked out well. The only problem is that I find that the long and thin pins bend. I bet that about a third of them are severely bent! I've been using my usual pins for years and the most heavily used ones have only a mild bend. These new pins have gotten all beat up after just a few pushes! I think a lot of the bending is due to my not placing the pins accurately and so sometimes not being centered in my pre-pricked pricking holes. Also, because the holes are so very close together and hard to see, there are times when I miss the prepricked holes completely and force the pin thropugh the pricking. Regardless, clearly these pins bend too easily. It is all for the best therefore that I am not also using them for the ground. My finger has gotten callused so the thin pins are no longer painful to push in. Although lately that hasn't been an issue anyway since I've been using two hands to push the pins in (one hand at the base to steady the pin so it doesn't bend). The holes have gotten much farther apart and easier to see as the weeks have gone by. Now I'm thinking that maybe I could have used my usual pins on the half-stitch figures after all? Well, I don't know. The most dense parts really are very close. So that is my pin story. So what is going on here? How do pins fit into the grand scheme of things? I mean, what is the theory about which types to use and how does it all tend to work out in practice? I had problems with the short pins, but perhaps that was only because I wasn't used to them and is not characteristic. Third comments. Some time ago spiders spoke about putting a hatpin into the pillow and a 45 degree angle and having the threads of the thrown-back bobbins go under the pin. At the time, I was working with 26-50 pairs of bobbins and this completely failed to register with me. A few weeks back this topic came up again, and, working with 80 pairs of bobbins, this time I was intensely interested. Yes, with 80 pairs I do have the problem of the threads of the unused pairs rising up and possible looping over the tops of the pins. I tried flipping my sping holders over 3 or 4 times before laying them down and this helped but I still had problems. The situation is much better now that I try to make the threads go under a pin. I'm using my usual pin since I don't have a hat pin and I still see great improvement. Things will get even better once I buy a bigger pin, maybe a divider pin of something. Second, it seems to me that people have said that there is a limit to the number of bobbins you can handle with the stitch holder method. Apparently, 80 pairs is nowhere vlose to that limit. I can envision my pillow easily handling another twenty pairs. So I don't yet have to try any of the more advanced methods, which is good becuase I have forgotten what they were (just like I totally forgot about the 45 degree pins. It is good for me that the subject came up again). Third, this project has a most amusing rhythym to it. I like ground, but sometimes it seems a bit boring. With this project, I have to focus so carefully on finding the tiny figure border pinholes and on making sure my incredibly wide and dense half-stitch rows (up to 26 pairs wide so far!) don't become disarranged, then it is a pleasant change of pace to go to the ground. And the ground works up particularly quickly because it is only half as dense as the figure. So the rhythym is: focus, focus, don't let the bobbins hop over each other, find the tiny pinhole, concentrate; ah, relax, stretch out, relax, relax, relax; focus, focus, concentrate, concentrate ; relax, stretch, take it
easy. So it's sort of fun to have a project with two different pinhole densities. Usually ground is easier and faster than figures, but, because it is the same density as the figures, I don't get that relaxing stretching out feeling when I switch to it. Julie Baltimore MD - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]