In a message dated 7/27/05 6:38:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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> it isn't the problem with it slipping
> out of stitch while the piece is still being worked.  it is the
> loosening of the stitches once the wax has faded that i am worried
> about.  once the lace is washed a few times and the thread becomes
> thinner, it will slip a little.  this would defintely mess up a picot.
> 
> 

Dear Lacemakers,

As many know, I have washed a lot of lace.  It is not noticible that "it will 
slip a little" if it is a standard lace, and not an experiment.  Experienced 
lacemakers allow for shrinkage, sometimes by making a small sample to test, if 
it is a new thread to them.  If it is a weak lace, as suztq fears, it may 
fall apart for many reasons.  My observation is that a weak lace (either 
through 
poor techniques or poor threads)  would not have been "saved" by waxed threads 
for any length of time!  

Lace has been made for 5+ centuries by thousands and thousands (surely over a 
million) lacemakers who have refined the process through the centuries.  It 
was known from the beginning, I am sure, that picots would close up in water 
and that if one wanted to restore them to original shape it was necessary to 
make lace of a scale that they could be pinned out when the lace was drying.  
In 
antique laces, closed picots is one way I can tell if a lace has been washed - 
an advantage, because then I automatically know it can be washed again (other 
conditions being considered), without having to "test" it!!  And then, it is 
up to me whether to pin it out.  

Part of the instructions to new lacemakers is to leave a new bobbin lace on 
the pillow overnight so the last few inches of crosses and twists will "set" 
and keep their definition.  This is probably because the teachers know that 
many 
new lacemakers have not established the correct tension yet.  Hopefully, a 
teacher will have specified an appropriate thread.    

The professional lacemakers of Europe would have put their pillows right to 
work on a new lace.  Once a piece of lace was complete, it was quite necessary 
to start another.  They depended on the lace made each day for their daily 
bread, while we have time to "play" with it.

While it is nice to be inventive, it is wise to first learn what has been 
done successfully.  I recommend reading more of the history of laces, which is 
quite affordable on the Professor's web site, before coming up with something 
that lacemakers before us have surely tried and discarded as being unnecessary 
or impractical.

The subject of wax reminds me of the story Angela Thompson told us about a 
carefully stored beaded gown of probably the early 20th C.  Mice got into the 
box in her storage closet, and they chewed on the waxed threads (usually used 
for beading because of strength and less possibility of beads cutting the 
thread) for nourishment.  The beaded dress became a pile of beads and tiny 
pieces of 
waxless thread!

Waxed lace, applied to some delicate fabrics, could mean staining of the 
fabrics, because you have not considered storage conditions and climate 
differences in different nations -- Arachne is an *International* list!  
Consider that 
wax is quite hard to remove.  If you've ever tried to get candle wax out of 
table cloths, you can understand (one reason why I always recommend white 
candles 
- not brightly-colored ones)!

By the way (for people who have never taken home economics classes) thread is 
wound on spools so that the cut end will be inserted into the needle on a 
sewing machine.  You should also insert that cut end into a sewing needle eye 
to 
keep the thread from twisting and knotting up when you hand-sew.  Otherwise, 
you are hand sewing against the grain of the thread.  If you are using up 
sewing machine bobbin threads, reverse the end you put in your hand sewing 
needle.

If any of this information I keep putting on Arachne is of value, once in a 
while I'd love to hear from some one or two of the 1,200(?) lurkers on the 
Arachne list.  Same goes for the other responders who keep trying to be of help 
- 
if they hear from you, they know their time is of value.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace & Embroidery Resource Center 

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