Hi Beth -

The longer you leave the pins in, the less distortion you'll get from 
tensioning your threads farther down...  And the advice you have so far is 
excellent.  

So unless you're running short of pins, or are working on a roller where the 
pins become a problem at the back of the roller, then I'd leave them in for two 
inches - or even more (although two inches should be sufficient).

One thing that may make it easier for you is that once you feel you've got a 
good number of pins in your pillow, then don't work with the pins in the 
pincushion any more...  simply take a pin from the back of your work when you 
need another pin.  This way, you're not constantly replenishing your pincushion 
or pulling pins in batches.

There may be times - in the same project - when you'll need to keep more pins 
in.  For example, when you work a corner, you'll want to keep pins in place to 
prevent distortion of stitches before the turn, particularly near the inside of 
the corner.  And regardless of how many pins you keep in the body of your work, 
you'll probably want to keep more along the footside - and possibly headside - 
to prevent distortion of passives in those areas.

Clay

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From: beth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Hi, everyone 
> 
> Last time we discussed how far back up the work one needs to leave the pins 
> in, someone (Tamara, IIRR) pointed out that it isn't how many inches or how 
> many repeats that matter, but how many rows of pins you leave in. 
> 
> So.... how many rows do I need to leave in? I'm working a torchon pattern in 
> fine thread (Finca 80), 10 footside pinholes to the inch, and each pattern 
> repeat is only 4 pinholes long (!) Leaving the pins in for two repeats would 
> only be 8 rows -not enough- but leaving a couple of inches worth in would be 
> twenty rows of tightly-packed pins. 
> 
> Any opinions? 
> 
> Beth 
> 
> in a rainy Cheshire, England - perfect excuse to spend Sunday afternoon 
> lacemaking instead of going for a nice healthy walk. 
> 
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