Forgot one important point: :''Eligibility of a language without a valid ISO 639-3 code, but with a valid BCP 47 code.'' This would be a novelty.
2017-05-19 0:33 GMT+02:00 MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > I put my draft on <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/ > Voting_policy>, comments on the talk page, and reproduce it below. > It shouldn't have anything new in it that wasn't already mentioned before. > Feel free to edit on Meta or write your opinions here. > > {{draft}} > > The Language Committee, with the approval of the Board, decided to change > its rules for decision-making. So far, every decision required "consensus", > defined as "no objections". > * Decisions of the Language Committee will continue to be made on the > mailing list and the committee will continue to try to achieve consensus > for them. If there has been no objection to a proposed decision one week > (two weeks for policy changes?) after the proposal was made, it is so > decided. > * When there is an objection to a proposed decision, any member may call > for a vote. A vote must then be held, but it should only start after the > question was discussed thoroughly. > * A vote will last for one week (two weeks for policy changes?). A vote > starts when a member sends a mail with the exact question to the list. The > subject of all the mails must include [VOTE] so that every member can > easily filter and notice such important mails. > * The following majorities of participating members are needed for a > decision to be adopted by vote: > **Simple majority > ***[[Language_proposal_policy#Requisites_for_eligibility|Eligibility]] of > projects in languages that have a valid ISO 639-3 code > ***Eligibility of a language without a valid ISO 639-3 code, but with a > valid BCP 47 code. > ***Final approval > **2/3 majority > ***Any change of the rules, including the committee's role in possible > changes of the [[Language proposal policy]] and [[Closing projects policy]]. > > Some special provisions: > * The procedures according to the [[closing projects policy]] are > unchanged. > * Full consensus is still required for accepting new members. Like all > personal issues, they will be discussed on the non-public mailing list. > * Any committee member can mark clearly eligible [[requests for new > languages]] as eligible. Requirements are: the language has a valid ISO > 639-3 code, there are no significant issues with regard to the language > itself, the population of speakers is significant. > ** If a request turns out to be contentious, the commitee can remove the > eligibility status again. > * It is not possible to vote on approving a project which doesn't meet the > [[Language_proposal_policy#Requisites_for_final_approval|requisites for > final approval]]. > > ==Comments== > :''(two weeks for policy changes?)'' > Yay or nay? > > :''When there is an objection to a proposed decision, any member may call > for a vote. A vote must then be held, but it should only start after the > question was discussed thoroughly.'' > I added this to prevent a voting is started immediately after someone says > something against an idea/proposal. Because of the current system, > discussions pretty much stop at that point, but under the new system, it > would be good if they went on first before everyone has to take a side. > > :''The subject of all the mails must include [VOTE] so that every member > can easily filter and notice such important mails.'' > This was requested in Berlin. > > > 2017-05-18 9:00 GMT+02:00 Oliver Stegen <[email protected]>: > >> Hi again, >> >> that really makes me sad. We had really good rapport and momentum when we >> met in Berlin, and I would've thought that we'd be able to transfer that to >> our online communication. Is there still hope to mend what happened >> yesterday? (Now my troubles no longer seem so far away ...) >> >> Yours for the under-represented language communities of our planet, >> Oliver >> >> On 18-May-17 07:52, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >> >> Hoi, >> No as far as I am concerned the conversation has soured. I prefer for us >> to take stock and not rush on. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On 17 May 2017 at 23:08, Milos Rancic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We could do that. MF-Warburg could put the proposal on wiki, so we >>> could discuss and comment there, as well. (But, we'll make the final >>> decision and final changes, if necessary, here. So, Gerard, don't >>> worry if you prefer to talk just on list.) >>> >>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Oliver Stegen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Thanks to both of you, Milos and MF-Warburg, for providing the text. >>> > >>> > I was simply thinking that discussing a text with comments in an online >>> > document would be much less cumbersome than doing so in an email list >>> with >>> > stacked responses. But whatever you prefer ... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 17-May-17 22:54, Milos Rancic wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:52 PM, MF-Warburg < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> By the way, I created a draft for a policy on "calling votes", which >>> >>> includes these details. 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