Politics sucks! But to really get me hot under my collar, it takes
*language* politics ...
On linguistic grounds alone (alas!, I cannot demand that these were the
only ones that count), there shouldn't be a cnr:wp.
Fwiw,
Oliver
On 27-Dec-17 01:54, MF-Warburg wrote:
2017-12-27 0:33 GMT+01:00 Steven White <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
The main thing that is urgent is that the Montenegrin community is
getting restless.
As to whether this should be approved (even waiting for an ISO
639-3 code), in principle I agree with MF-Warburg. But in
practice, it's a little hard for me to understand why there
shouldn't be a Montenegrin Wikipedia when there are separate
Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian Wikipedias. If I were a Montenegrin
I would not be able to understand that at all. If there were
still only one Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia, I think we could make a
case for not creating any of the others. But from where we stand
now, how can we possibly say that separate Serbian, Croatian and
Bosnian projects are acceptable, but a Montenegrin one is not?
These separate projects were all created before Langcom and the
current policy existed. They wouldn't be created today.
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*From:* Steven White
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2017 5:43 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Montenegrin Wikipedia (URGENT)
I was going to hold off on this until the holidays are over, but
rather remarkably, unless somebody hacked the Library of
Congress's web site
<https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php>,
Montenegrin has been granted an ISO 639–2 code ("cnr"). This has
been in the air over the last month, and represents the first
addition to ISO 639–2 in over five years. The Montenegrin
community is jumping for joy, and I've just full-protected the
page Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Montenegrin 5
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Montenegrin_5>
on Meta because the discussion is getting out of hand.
If srwiki, hrwiki and bswiki didn't exist, we wouldn't have to
create this one, either. But I have to admit that I don't really
see any way we can currently justify not approving this project
(as "eligible"). My questions are, therefore:
* Am I right about that?
* Is LangCom willing to see this project marked as "eligible"
based on an ISO 639-2 code alone?
* The rules are that non-collective ISO 639-2 codes are supposed
to be reflected in ISO 639-3 as well. So do I wait until this
code is published by SIL?
* If so, what happens if SIL does not take action?
Steven
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