Do we have other suggestions for how to solve the problem of proposed
projects being in limbo for unreasonable periods of time?

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 11:16 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hoi,
> When the language committee was formed, it was exactly good faith that
> proved problematic.
>
> It has proven extremely problematic to end projects so no, that is exactly
> the wrong sentiment.
> Thanks,
>          GerardM
>
> Op vr 16 aug. 2019 10:41 schreef James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks Steven
>>
>> In my opinion, I am happy for us to assume good faith with respect to
>> these projects. We should have a specific time period to weight in, if no
>> one brings forwards specific concerns during this time period than creation
>> should move forwards. If major concerns are raised down the road, it is not
>> that hard to roll back an approval.
>>
>> James
>> P.S. Please note that this is my own opinion and not an official board
>> position.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 06:09 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So ignore me. But verification is part of the game.You do not threaten
>>> us and cowe us in undesired consequences. It is not for you to make these
>>> threats.
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 23:35, Steven White <koala19...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now that things are starting to move again, I intend to approve four
>>>> projects:  Guiane Creole WP, Saraiki WP, Mon WP and Tacawit (Shawiya)
>>>> Wiktionary.  No, none of these has been verified. But this is not the fault
>>>> of the people who created the projects, this is the fault of the Language
>>>> Committee, which did not do its job.  Accordingly, I will approve and send
>>>> to phabricator for creation all four of these projects by 17:00 UTC on
>>>> Monday, 19 August.  I will not do that in a particular case only if ALL of
>>>> the following happens:
>>>>
>>>>    - Someone objects in a particular case that they have reason to be
>>>>    concerned about the validity of the language.
>>>>    - That person also specifically commits to contacting an expert
>>>>    immediately.
>>>>    - Then, within 48 hours, that person has contacted the expert, and
>>>>    identified the expert to the mail list.
>>>>    - Then, the expert has 7 days to respond.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, I need to fall back on "Assume Good Faith". And look, if one
>>>> of these turns out to be another Siberian, we'll be embarrassed, and we'll
>>>> delete the project.  But I've been watching all of these projects for the
>>>> last two years, and I don't have any reason to believe there is a problem.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone tries to object in any way other than the specific way I have
>>>> outlined above, I intend to ignore that person.  Sorry, but at this point,
>>>> the Committee only has the right to intervene if it intends to become
>>>> active again and do its job.
>>>>
>>>> Steven
>>>>
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