Hoi,
Define unreasonable. Amir gave an estimation when it is reasonable to
expect a result.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 11:19, James Heilman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do we have other suggestions for how to solve the problem of proposed
> projects being in limbo for unreasonable periods of time?
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 11:16 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>> When the language committee was formed, it was exactly good faith that
>> proved problematic.
>>
>> It has proven extremely problematic to end projects so no, that is
>> exactly the wrong sentiment.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> Op vr 16 aug. 2019 10:41 schreef James Heilman <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> Thanks Steven
>>>
>>> In my opinion, I am happy for us to assume good faith with respect to
>>> these projects. We should have a specific time period to weight in, if no
>>> one brings forwards specific concerns during this time period than creation
>>> should move forwards. If major concerns are raised down the road, it is not
>>> that hard to roll back an approval.
>>>
>>> James
>>> P.S. Please note that this is my own opinion and not an official board
>>> position.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 06:09 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So ignore me. But verification is part of the game.You do not threaten
>>>> us and cowe us in undesired consequences. It is not for you to make these
>>>> threats.
>>>> GerardM
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 23:35, Steven White <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now that things are starting to move again, I intend to approve four
>>>>> projects: Guiane Creole WP, Saraiki WP, Mon WP and Tacawit (Shawiya)
>>>>> Wiktionary. No, none of these has been verified. But this is not the
>>>>> fault
>>>>> of the people who created the projects, this is the fault of the Language
>>>>> Committee, which did not do its job. Accordingly, I will approve and send
>>>>> to phabricator for creation all four of these projects by 17:00 UTC on
>>>>> Monday, 19 August. I will not do that in a particular case only if ALL of
>>>>> the following happens:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Someone objects in a particular case that they have reason to be
>>>>> concerned about the validity of the language.
>>>>> - That person also specifically commits to contacting an expert
>>>>> immediately.
>>>>> - Then, within 48 hours, that person has contacted the expert, and
>>>>> identified the expert to the mail list.
>>>>> - Then, the expert has 7 days to respond.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, I need to fall back on "Assume Good Faith". And look, if
>>>>> one of these turns out to be another Siberian, we'll be embarrassed, and
>>>>> we'll delete the project. But I've been watching all of these projects
>>>>> for
>>>>> the last two years, and I don't have any reason to believe there is a
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone tries to object in any way other than the specific way I
>>>>> have outlined above, I intend to ignore that person. Sorry, but at this
>>>>> point, the Committee only has the right to intervene if it intends to
>>>>> become active again and do its job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven
>>>>>
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