By the way, I'm ecstatic to hear that you're developing a new IDE. I
personally feel there are two things keeping Laszlo from full-scale
adoption:
1. Poor tool support
2. Steep learning curve
Your IDE should help greatly with the first issue. I'm not sure how to
address the second issue. Perhaps just improved documentation?
Anyway, if we can do anything to help (e.g. beta testing), please let us
know. :)
-Rich
Anze Cesar wrote:
Will the IDE be open source?
I suppose it's written in Java. Do you ever plan to make Eclipse plugin?
On Nov 16, 2007 2:26 PM, bjdevlin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I'm fairly new to Laszlo, and don't like the (lack of) options for
developing OL apps. I've looked at several tools to see how they
can enable
the development of OL apps (XML editors such as Oxygen and
XmlBuddy, and
IDEs such as Emacs, NetBeans, and XCode). None of these tools
seemed to me
to offer much assistance. Given the choice of working with poor
IDE support
in Laszlo or using Flex, I decided to write my own IDE.
The IDE will be cross-platform, and includes
1) a LZX source XML editor with outlining, automatic indentation and
colorization, context-sensitive element/attribute suggestions, and
pre-compilation validation warnings
2) a visual layout builder displaying the component relationships
without
having to compile to SWF, with drag and drop layout, and a property
inspector for each component
3) an in-built web-browser to display the compiled-rendered
application
4) VCS integration
Parts 1 and 2 are complete. Part 3 at the moment is only a wireframe
representation of the layout, and is not editable. No work has
started on
part 4.
However, according to this bug-report
[http://www.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-2300] the official OL
DTD has
been out of date for at least 18 months (it represents Laszlo at
version
2.1.2). This is going to limit the usefulness of the IDE, since
probably a
significant number of elements are going to fail validation within
the IDE
and are not going to be found as options during code-completion.
In fact,
since it is the DTD that drives the property palettes, if an
element is not
listed in the DTD there will not be a property inspector for it.
I don't know if voting for OL bugs has any effect, but I know of
other
organizations with open bug-reporting who do respond to votes on
bugs. If
you would like to see a new IDE for OL, please vote for the above bug.
Indeed, I'm not alone in needing this updated DTD: several people
have
posted in the forum asking for an updated DTD
(http://forum.openlaszlo.org/showthread.php?p=29210#post29210 and
http://forum.openlaszlo.org/showthread.php?p=29506).
Apologies if this is the wrong forum in which to raise something
like this.
Also, if there is already work underway on updating the DTD, then my
apologies for complaining about the currently outdated DTD.
Also, I sent
this message via nabble.com <http://nabble.com>, and inadvertendly
sent an earlier version.
Luckily, since I hadn't yet subscribed to the list it looks like that
message did not appear. My apologies if it does subsequently
appear - I
didn't mean to spam the list on this issue.
Bernard
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