On 5/16/07, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as opposed to the choice to publicly humiliate (or not) the idiots > who send that kind of email to women. :-/
... hmm, how many women have the choice (to publicly humiliate) trollish/creepy online behaviour ? For example, how would we know that "person A" is having this problem. As its not appropriate to complain on mailing lists, unless "person A" decides to blog about it, and unless he/she is an Ubuntu member their blog is not aggregated on the planet. See what I mean....Barriers still exist (not to mention all the time wasted in dealing with this). > Personally, I think that part of the reason you get hit as hard by > these nincompoops is that they don't need to fear the consequences. What consequences ? Does Ubuntu have a policy where the person (if an Ubuntu member) is reprimanded or stripped of membership. What action do we take in such cases. It is a serious issue and by then the women (who dont want to waste more time by going to the CC, may have to do more explaining and prove their case) have already gone. FWIW, I dont see this behaviour stopping anytime soon but I would like to see these issues being addressed as a community effort instead of leaving the individual to grapple with it alone. Do we have a way to address such issues? .... Currently, the answer is a resounding NO. > IMHO we need to start fixing that. At the risk of going OT, on the web people can harass women using fake id's. Its difficult to stop that but we can reduce it in our community by defining what is inappropriate behaviour and how it affects a project and is detrimental to growth. I had prepared this draft[0] last year and Jacinta has improved it greatly. I had written to Jono about this earlier and would like to see something concrete come out of this discussion. [0] http://mosshead.com/wikichix/index.php?title=EtiquetteGuidelines Thanks for starting this discussion and .. thanks for reading. -- Vid -- launchpad-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
