On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote:

On 08.11.2017 13:12, Michael Van Canneyt via Lazarus wrote:
ExtPascal way (or UniGUI for that matter) is the wrong way to do things. Interesting as a toy, but not suitable for
a) Large, scalable websites
b) serveless applications.

Agreed ! But if doing a server based application (ore one that includes the web-server) that mainly does unattended, "embedded" work,  and tghe GUI is only used for configuration and monitoring, such a toy-functionality might be useful, nonetheless.

Maybe, but since we're aiming for the more general case, this 'toy' is an avenue we're going to skip...


From the view of the application programmer, doing a Rich Internet Application with pas2js is a similar endeavor as Microsoft intended by Silverlight (which has been canceled some time ago) : Design an application and define "bridging points" that "somehow" shift the execution between server and browser.

With Silverlight, both parts would be compiled to CIL byte code and run an a CIL (aka .NET) framework, with fpc, the server part would be compiled to a native executable while the Browser part would be compiled to JS (or maybe later to WebAssembly).

The user source code would not necessarily need to contain much more than appropriate definitions of the bridging points (supposedly some kind of inter-class interface), and the Lazarus infrastructure would take care of the communication.

I think you're better off coding it as a real client/server application,
which is what it actually is.

Trying to hide that aspect is IMO futile and will in the long run lead to problems anyway.

I spent too much time fighting such frameworks, and believe that you should
embrace the platforms you're using. That means: browser as client, webserver as
server, and HTTP or websocket as the transport layer.

Michael.
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