Maybe a way would be to advertise both Lazarus and Freepascal together, a bit the same way that no one would envisage Delphi without the GUI.
The marketing side of things could be improved to "convert" more easily new users to Freepascal / Lazarus by making the whole concept more appealing * the look and feel of the free pascal web site could do with an overhaul * lazarus would be well and evidently advertised as a main feature - currently there is only an icon about Lazarus with no explaination and no other obvious links to the project! * there would be a comprehensive tutorial on how to get started with Freepascal and with lazarus - currently there is no tutorial that present the major features of the language and the easiest wat is to look at one of the tutorial for Delphi. One could think as the tutorial for Python as a very good tutorial providing a clear overview of the language to new users (see http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.1/tut/tut.html) * the whole help and documentation side of things could be made more easy; with a common portal for documentation for both Lazarus and Freepascal It may add value for Lazarus to distance itself from Delphi. Delphi has the bad connotation to be a proprietary product of a company on the decline. On 8/15/05, George Lober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raphael Alla wrote: > > >Lazarus and Eclipse are compared as two IDEs, and why the most bloated > >one seem to be the most successful too. > > > >In my view, this is due to a lack of marketing effort from the > >freepascal and lazarus project, and the "old school" image associated > >with Pascal in general. This is surely not helped by the web sites of > >both projects which are rather user unfriendly! > > > >On 8/15/05, Arí Ricardo Ody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > >>On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:56:54 +0200, Florian Klämpfl > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>escreveu: > >> > >> > >> > >>>De: Florian Klämpfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Data: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:56:54 +0200 > >>>Para: [email protected] > >>>Assunto: Re: Eclipse > >>> > >>>Raphael Alla wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>and everyone knows about Eclipse? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Because of a lot of marketing by big companies? > >>> > >>> > >>There is a big and blue motivation, of course master Florian and master > >>Raphael. > >> > >>But eclipse generate java code, doesn't it? Netbeans from Sun generates > >>too. > >> > >>I can't understand why you associate eclipse with lazarus Raphael? > >> > >>I can't understand why people talk too much about java and nothing about > the > >>good old pascal. I program in both languages and think that pascal is > much > >>more easy, heave more powerful contructions and the IDE's(Lazarus and > >>Delphi) have visual components much more beatiful and well-designed. The > >>aspect of the resultant applications look better. > >> > >>Greetings from Sao Paulo - Brazil > >> > >>Ricardo > >> > >> > >> > > It appears to me that lot of people talking about Lazarus vs. Eclipse > success are forgetting about the fact that these days we live in an > Internet based world and Java I believe was designed with the Internet > in mind, Pascal wasn't, you can't make comparisons. As for why Pascal > isn't more popular is a puzzling point for me. Pascal definitely is seen > as teaching language and not much more than that. It is not seen as a > language to do big projects in like C++ is. When FPC 2.0 came out I read > the blog comments made from other people, and I don't think too many > people are even aware of Lazarus. Lot of people made comments like the > good old days of pascal in school years ago, or what is pascal really > good for, why would you want to code in pascal. Lot of comments made > about Free Pascal but nothing about Lazarus. The few comments made seem > to be about comparing Delphi compilation speed versus Lazarus > compilation, which admittedly Lazarus would loose, but to me the extra > second here or there doesn't bother me, as there are a lot of positives > about Lazarus compared to Delphi or Kylix. > > George. > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject > archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
