On Wednesday 08 September 2004 03:41, Hal V. Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That is what I had in mind. I have Scribus 1.2 installed (latest >version) and it does appear to be color savvy but I just started >looking at it today and it took me a while to figure out how to >get a photo into it. It is also not real stable and has crashed >several times today. It is a publishing app and is not well suited to >being part of a color managed digital darkroom workflow. But if it >worked it would be a step forward. Seeing that you are on Suse, I have found it rarely crashes with 1.2, but some things are important: Updated lcms libraries for suse help, not with stability, but correct rendering. I have built and uploaded lcms-libs 1.13 for Suse 9.1. If you built lcms from source, there might be older versions kicking around. I use the latest Qt 3.3.3 rpms from Suse. These have some important bug fixes which affect Scribus. Suse 9.x ships by default a bunch of freefonts in rpm. I remove them immediately after install. Go into Kfontinstaller in the control panel and disable all the Hershey fonts. They cause problems for Scribus. >I have played with the Scribus color management stuff and it does do >monitor correction and will do the conversion when printing. My >monitor profile appears to be too light so I need to get into lprof to >see if I can darken it up some. It will also do a on screen printer >proof (soft proof). I have never found this to be particularly useful >but Scribus does do it and the soft proof looks almost exactly like it >does in Photoshop for the same printer. Good. Soft proof is really useful in DTP. I have found the same. In testing on a real world DTP workstation setup to dual boot. The profiles created with Monaco's color tools on Win32, drop in and work well with Scribus. The key I have found is disabling all driver color adjustments in the driver under Win32. With Nvidia, ATI and Matrox, this is possible if you dig through the advanced display driver settings. >I don't know how well the printer output works yet. I have been unable >to print from Scribus. The Scribus document just sits in the queue >with a state of "processing" and never prints. After that the queue is >messed up and nothing will print. Perhaps I have a problem with CUPS >but everything else prints OK and I can print the same image from the >GIMP. I also noticed that the document format is >application/postscript where as the document format when printed from >the GIMP is application/vnd.cups-raw. I don't know if this has >anything to do with the problem. There is no way to turn off >postscript output that I can find. Scribus outputs pure level 3 PS by default. If you build it with CUPS support, you can use the GIMP print drivers directly. Printing with a color calibrated and profiled CMYK laser with a Fiery RIP results in near perfect screen/color matches. With vector artwork this is very consistent. Not all printer setups handle this well. Optionally, export a PDF and print from Acrobat reader with kprinter. This is a bit different than printing from an image application, but it does work for general DTP. >Another thing I have noticed is that color management has to be enabled >for each document that is created. So every time you create a new >document so that you can color manage the printing workflow you have >to set all of the color management options. I have not found a way to >make these default to a set of specific values. It also does not use >color management for printing by default and this has to be selected >each time a document is printed. Correct. By default, because of performance. Some of the user preferences issues will be fixed in 1.3+ >I have not been able to find a good version of the Corel Photopaint >program. I found a tarred RPM file for Redhat but is was >corrupted. I am running SuSE so I don't think that would do me >any good but I didn't know it was an rpm until I un-tarred it. Besides >this app is no longer supported so I think this is a dead end rather >than a way forward. Agreed. It is unsupported and is very difficult to install. It requires its own font server and aps printing setup. >I have used the lcms utilities to embed profiles and then convert to >the printer profile before printing. This works but is very clumsy >and time consuming. I have on my wish list this ability in Scribus when importing images. >I know that Xorg has color management for X as something that they need >to work on but they have not started working on it. Their web site >says they are looking for someone to lead the project. I also know >that the GIMP team has color management on their "we will do this >someday soon list" but they have not started. I also know that the >GIMP Print team knows that they need to implement this but they have >not started on it either. So I have to give the Scribus folks credit >for at least making significant progress and I am hopeful that they >will have things working better soon. The feeling I have is that they >are very close to getting it right. Perhaps the GIMP folks can >leverage their work. X.org has yanked out the old xcms as far as I understand and is looking for a replacement. I have chatted with Jim Gettys and Keith Packard about this. They do "Get it" wrt to color management. Thanks for the kind words about Scribus, we *do* need more color savvy testers. Bugs sumbitted to bugs.scribus.net are carefully looked over and fixes when possible are put in quickly. You should know also we are actively discussing with Inkscape (SVG vector drawing application) and others how to come up with a common platform for managing cms preferences. I am in my rare spare time putting together a paper on this.. mostly to get the ball rolling We on the Scribus team have been focused on getting 1.2 done. Now, we can begin to tackle some of this. There is definitely a wish among all the devels I have chatted with to push this forward in the next year. Cheers, Peter ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user
