Gerhard Fuernkranz wrote:
After taking a look at the old and the new specs, I'm getting more and more the impression that V4 hasn't really introduced a significant change, but only extensions. Couldn't it be that the *intended* semantics have not realy changed, but that they have been misinterpreted previously by CMM and profile makers, simply because the early specs weren't clear enough?
I don't disagree with your analysis. The old spec. was ambiguous about how to fit emissive displays into the idea of icc-absolute being an illuminant relative standard. The ambiguity was in whether to regard the white point of the emissive display as the illuminant or the media color. There was also the anomaly of recommending "wrong von-Kries" for the white point transform between D50 and the media white point. What's happened is that V4 has resolved the ambiguity, but in the *wrong way*. It's resolved in a way that: * Breaks expectations about what Absolute Colorimetric is meant to do, by making it's application to emissive displays different to other profiles (emissive profiles are now the odd ones out for no understandable reason). * Failed to fix the use of "wrong von-Kries" transforms in computing white point adaptation for non-emissive displays. * necessitated the introduction of a "real absolute" intent in CMM's that want to give users back the functionality they had before. * introduced confusion and incompatibility with existing, widely available profiles (srgb for example). If the ambiguity had been resolved the other way (declaring an emissive display is assumed to have an illuminant of D50, and a media color of it's white point), and that Bradford should be used instead of "wrong von-Kries" in transforming the profile data to relative colorimetric (possibly supplemented by the 'chad' tag to make the transform maths explicit), then none of these problems would exist. The overall effect has been to make "absolute colorimetric" the same as relative, just for emissive displays, necessitating the introduction of another absolute intent to achieve things like spot color matching: Effect V2 V4 Refl. V4 Emiss. ------ -- -------- --------- Absolute Absolute Real Abs. Real Abs. ICC Abs. Relative Relative Relative ICC Abs. Relative Perceptual Perceptual Perceptual Perceptual Saturation Saturation Saturation Saturation Actually there is a perfectly good reason to introduce another absolute intent into the ICC profile, but it has to do with reflective media. Something similar to the 'chad' tag could be used to indicate the transform back to the media under a different intended ("Other") illuminant. With V4 that would leave us with: Effect V2 V4 Refl. V4 Emiss. ------ -- -------- --------- Other Abs. - Real Abs. Real Abs. D50 Abs. Absolute ICC Abs. Real Abs. Relative Relative Relative ICC Abs. Relative Perceptual Perceptual Perceptual Perceptual Saturation Saturation Saturation Saturation still leaving emissive displays the odd one out. Graeme Gill. ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list Lcms-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user