Even more important than monitoring employees and/or co-workers, is to monitor what your children are doing on the internet.  I have used spy software to monitor my home computer for several years.  Each family member knows everything is monitored.  The idea is not to spy on them, and when they know every screen shot and keyboard strike is recorded, they govern themselves very well.  I use a firewall to block websites where music can be downloaded illegally, or chat rooms, etc..  The spy software is called SpectorSoft, and I recommend it to anyone with children, or a wife for that matter.  A good friend of mine lost his wife to an online romance.  If you don't have a good program like SpectorSoft, you simply don't have the tools to safeguard your family.  With SpectorSoft, every screen shot and keyboard strike is recorded.  You will know everyone's passwords, read every email, and see every screen shot. What do you guys think?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob Sorensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:10 PM
To: LDS Open Source Software
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Filtering Question

Novell was one of the places I was thinking of -- not only is "inappropriate behavior" a big issue, but (if I remember correctly) leaking company secrets.  They're big and paranoid, and they watch practically everything and have controls and policies in place for handling sensitive records.
 
Jake
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Filtering Question


I should have put a :-> after that...

I've spent a good deal of time dealing with these kinds of issues both in and out of an office environment.
If you want to see Big Brother, go work at Novell (at least a few years ago). I had friends there that left
after a time in part due to the oppressive cell block mentality that some in management operated under
due to their paranoia over "inappropriate" behavior/material/speech.

I'm a firm believer that Joseph Smith had it right: "teach them proper principles, and let them govern
themselves..." Unfortunately, many don't follow that, and I have had employees I've had to deal with
in that vein as well. So you don't get the benefit of knowing all of what I do about it... :-)

Getting back to the original question. Colin asked an IT releated question - perfectly appropriate if you
are curious as to "how do I...". I doubt the information provided will be used for a good purpose, but
that is his issue and not mine, and anyone with a little moxy on the ball will come up with similar cheap
hacks to get to the information they are looking for...so it's not secret.

...Paul

Jacob Sorensen wrote:
The Big Brother possibilites are just endless...
    

Watch out for that kind of thing.  Even if you make employees sign something 
saying "big brother" stuff is okay when they're hired, you have to be 
extremely careful not to do things that are illegal or make you open to 
lawsuits.  Unless you have a real reason to think the employee is doing 
something wrong (and clearing the cache doesn't count -- but if another 
employee said they saw that person surfing porn or gambling online on 
company time, that would count), "big brothering" the one employee and not 
all others (including yourself) is creating a discriminating and threatening 
workplace.  Even with reason, you have to make sure the information is 
appropriately dealt with.  You'd need controls over who can access any "big 
brother" records of this employee and some kind of determination over when 
the records will be destroyed.

Jake Sorensen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Penrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LDS Open Source Software" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Filtering Question


Colin,

That's not a nefarious activity. I do it on any system that is not my
own, unless I specifically want to
leave the information there for some purpose. For critical URL's, I'll
always bookmark; otherwise,
the History is a nice backup.

Does this individual have a past history of porn surfing, etc.? If
he/she does not, then are you sure
people are not being paraniod here?

Let's assume for the sake of discussion that this person is doing this
and everyone is giddy with anticipation.

If you want to see some of what they have been looking at, you can
always peruse the IE cache where
all the images are stored and if you get the nasty eye candy then you
know someone has been where
they shouldn't have been. Otherwise, if you want to sandbag this person,
you can use a keyboard sniffer,
or an @ process that autocopies the IE history file to some other
location for later inspection. I would do
this in such a way that you can ping the file and it won't overwrite an
old copy that's full with the new
one that's empty. If you have PERL installed on the machine
(www.activestate.com) the file is trivial,
else you might have to use DOS commands, which also work.

You can place a camera in line of sight of their screen and watch where
they go. The Big Brother
possibilites are just endless...


...Paul


Colin Jensen wrote:

  
I've got a quick IT question.  There's someone at my office who deletes his
IE history each night, and that scares us.  We know exactly where he goes
    
>from the router; we have blocked any inappropriate sites both in his hosts
  
file and via an external blocker that comes free from our ISP.  So the
computer's pretty locked down.  But, whereas porn is always a church topic,
I'd like to do one more invisible thing: Is there a way we can set it where
he can't erase his IE history?  I think that would help a lot, if he would
know that anywhere he visits will remain semi-public forever.  Even if we
tweaked it so his history opened when he opened I.E.  Neither of those seem
difficult, I just don't know where the buttons would be.

We don't have a domain set up or a centralized server.  Right now he's got
admin rights because everyone does, but if by making him a regulated user
there's a button somewhere to disallow him access to erase his tracks, that
would be nice.  Anyway, comments?

--Colin
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