That's one solution at home, I suppose. It does have its uses, but it's
not my flavor of vanilla...
What I have observed with some of my kids before they grew up and left
home:
A) If they wanted to do something not allowed at home, there was
always a friend's house or the Library.
B) Spyware is good for the first round - only.
C) Spyware does not make up for bad or lazy parenting.
D) Spyware does not make good well behaved children. Fear of Dad
went a whole lot farther.
As to your friend's wife. Sorry to hear that, but spyware is not the
answer to that either. It would have happend
some other way - as there were other issues in play.
Something like SpectorSoft is a nice-to-have utility that may prove
useful, but it's not a requirement to protect
your family. The best tools in the world are taught every Sunday at
church - prayer, reading the scriptures,
family home evening, testimonies, etc. You know - the boring stuff you
got from Primary, through MIA, right
into Gospel Doctrine every week. Oh, and we need to add Education in
the mix. I never bring anything into
the house that I don't know how to use and what it's for. Period.
Pratt, Dave wrote:
Even more important than monitoring employees
and/or co-workers, is to monitor what your children are doing on the
internet. I have used spy software to monitor my home computer for
several years. Each family member knows everything is monitored. The
idea is not to spy on them, and when they know every screen shot and
keyboard strike is recorded, they govern themselves very well. I use a
firewall to block websites where music can be downloaded illegally, or
chat rooms, etc.. The spy software is called SpectorSoft, and I
recommend it to anyone with children, or a wife for that matter. A
good friend of mine lost his wife to an online romance. If you don't
have a good program like SpectorSoft, you simply don't have the tools
to safeguard your family. With SpectorSoft, every screen shot and
keyboard strike is recorded. You will know everyone's passwords, read
every email, and see every screen shot. What do you guys think?
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Novell was one of the places I was
thinking of -- not only is "inappropriate behavior" a big issue, but
(if I remember correctly) leaking company secrets. They're big and
paranoid, and they watch practically everything and have controls and
policies in place for handling sensitive records.
Jake
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I should have put a :-> after that...
I've spent a good deal of time dealing with these kinds of issues both
in and out of an office environment.
If you want to see Big Brother, go work at Novell (at least a few years
ago). I had friends there that left
after a time in part due to the oppressive cell block mentality that
some in management operated under
due to their paranoia over "inappropriate" behavior/material/speech.
I'm a firm believer that Joseph Smith had it right: "teach them proper
principles, and let them govern
themselves..." Unfortunately, many don't follow that, and I have had
employees I've had to deal with
in that vein as well. So you don't get the benefit of knowing all of
what I do about it... :-)
Getting back to the original question. Colin asked an IT releated
question - perfectly appropriate if you
are curious as to "how do I...". I doubt the information provided will
be used for a good purpose, but
that is his issue and not mine, and anyone with a little moxy on the
ball will come up with similar cheap
hacks to get to the information they are looking for...so it's not
secret.
...Paul
Jacob Sorensen wrote:
The Big Brother possibilites are just endless...
Watch out for that kind of thing. Even if you make employees sign something
saying "big brother" stuff is okay when they're hired, you have to be
extremely careful not to do things that are illegal or make you open to
lawsuits. Unless you have a real reason to think the employee is doing
something wrong (and clearing the cache doesn't count -- but if another
employee said they saw that person surfing porn or gambling online on
company time, that would count), "big brothering" the one employee and not
all others (including yourself) is creating a discriminating and threatening
workplace. Even with reason, you have to make sure the information is
appropriately dealt with. You'd need controls over who can access any "big
brother" records of this employee and some kind of determination over when
the records will be destroyed.
Jake Sorensen
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From: "Paul Penrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LDS Open Source Software" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Ldsoss] Filtering Question
Colin,
That's not a nefarious activity. I do it on any system that is not my
own, unless I specifically want to
leave the information there for some purpose. For critical URL's, I'll
always bookmark; otherwise,
the History is a nice backup.
Does this individual have a past history of porn surfing, etc.? If
he/she does not, then are you sure
people are not being paraniod here?
Let's assume for the sake of discussion that this person is doing this
and everyone is giddy with anticipation.
If you want to see some of what they have been looking at, you can
always peruse the IE cache where
all the images are stored and if you get the nasty eye candy then you
know someone has been where
they shouldn't have been. Otherwise, if you want to sandbag this person,
you can use a keyboard sniffer,
or an @ process that autocopies the IE history file to some other
location for later inspection. I would do
this in such a way that you can ping the file and it won't overwrite an
old copy that's full with the new
one that's empty. If you have PERL installed on the machine
(www.activestate.com) the file is trivial,
else you might have to use DOS commands, which also work.
You can place a camera in line of sight of their screen and watch where
they go. The Big Brother
possibilites are just endless...
...Paul
Colin Jensen wrote:
I've got a quick IT question. There's someone at my office who deletes his
IE history each night, and that scares us. We know exactly where he goes
>from the router; we have blocked any inappropriate sites both in his hosts
file and via an external blocker that comes free from our ISP. So the
computer's pretty locked down. But, whereas porn is always a church topic,
I'd like to do one more invisible thing: Is there a way we can set it where
he can't erase his IE history? I think that would help a lot, if he would
know that anywhere he visits will remain semi-public forever. Even if we
tweaked it so his history opened when he opened I.E. Neither of those seem
difficult, I just don't know where the buttons would be.
We don't have a domain set up or a centralized server. Right now he's got
admin rights because everyone does, but if by making him a regulated user
there's a button somewhere to disallow him access to erase his tracks, that
would be nice. Anyway, comments?
--Colin
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