Dear All.
I see that Ray talk (ask) about 2 things at a time :
1. small part of basic 802.11b networking
2. OSPF.

and here is my notes for both.

1. In IP routing , stations who wants talk each other directly basically
have to be at the same physical layer backbone (i.e : connected to a single
eth hub) , and in the same IP network.... and if the physical layer is
802.11b we have to make sure that... station who want talk each other
directly in 802.11b network have to be at the same channel and the same
network ID (ESSID).

2.  OSPF. Routers who want exchanging route table have to be at the same
Physical Layer ... and have MAIN ip address in the same IP network .. Plus
they have to list each other as a neighbor (old fashion way) or have the
same msg-digest-key (recent way).

CMIIW
-bino-.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vladimir Ivaschenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ray Gwinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: [leaf-wisp] Zebra/ospf


> Hi,
>
> Sorry for not being clear. I meant that ESSID should be the same
> everywhere.
>
> If it is so, then the client should have a problem finding the access
> point even if it was not available previously.
>
> Ray Gwinn wrote:
> > I apologize for being such a novice, but asking questions is the best
way to overcome "being a
> > novice".
> >
> >
> >>Make sure that ESSID is set correctly on the station in MANAGED mode.
> >
> >
> > I am not sure what you mean by the above.  I currently have the same
ESSID everywhere.  Are
> > you saying they should be different, or is there something special about
the ESSID on a
> > MANAGED interface?
> >
> > Ray
> >
> > On 15 Jun 2004 at 20:56, Vladimir Ivaschenko wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Make sure that ESSID is set correctly on the station in MANAGED mode.
> >>
> >>OSPF will work fine on machines with multiple IPs on an interface as
> >>long as the primary IP is from the same subnet on both of the machines.
> >>
> >>Ray Gwinn wrote:
> >>
> >>>>One of them should be in MANAGED mode.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>The above seems to have done the trick.  I now see zebra additions to
the
> >>>route table "ip route".  I am also able to ssh from one box to another.
Now
> >>>that I have something working in a basic form, I can experiment on my
own.
> >>>Thank you, Vladimir, for your assistance and your creating wisp-disp.
> >>>
> >>>For anyone that is lurking out there, here are some things that I have
seen
> >>>using ospf. Most are thanks to Vladimir.
> >>>
> >>>1 - One of the radios must be in MASTER mode, and the other in MANAGED
mode.
> >>>
> >>>2 - The node that is in MASTER mode must be up an running before the
MANAGED
> >>>node is started.  This seems like a bug, but I am not sure.  If the
MANAGED
> >>>node is started first, then zebra/ospf seems not to work.
> >>>
> >>>3 - The radios(s) interface that are used to link between two nodes
cannot
> >>>have multiple IP addresses.
> >>>
> >>>4. - The IP addresses of the linking radios interfaces must be in the
same
> >>>network, and have the same netmask.
> >>>
> >>>5 - The default wisp-disp zebra.conf and ospfd.conf work, no matter
what IP
> >>>address you choose to use (so long as they meet the above conditions).
> >>>
> >>>Ray
> >>>
> >>>On 15 Jun 2004 at 9:35, Vladimir Ivashchenko wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>You shouldn't set both radios to MASTER unless you want to WDS.
> >>>>One of them should be in MANAGED mode.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ray Gwinn wrote about "Re: [leaf-wisp] Zebra/ospf":
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I am wondering if I have basic radio setup problem.  The two radios
for the
> >>>>>node to hode hop are on the same channel (11) and in master mode.  Is
this
> >>>>>correct?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>By the way, a requirement of OSPF is that interface
> >>>>>>network/netmask should be the same on both of the routers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have tried many variations.  Currently the interface on one router
is set
> >>>>>to 10.0.100.1/24, and 10.0.101.1/24 on the other router.  The network
is
> >>>>>not the same, but the netmask is.  I have tried one big network
10.0.0.0/8
> >>>>>network also, with /8 netmask on all IPs, and still no luck.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ray
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 14 Jun 2004 at 23:20, Vladimir Ivashchenko wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You can configure the OSPF authentication key using the menu, or
> >>>>>>using command line - look at " ip ospf message-digest-key"
> >>>>>>interface subcommand.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Anyway, I'm interested to see output "sh ip ospf neigh" command.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>By the way, a requirement of OSPF is that interface
> >>>>>>network/netmask should be the same on both of the routers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ray Gwinn wrote about "Re: [leaf-wisp] Zebra/ospf":
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Make sure that OSPF key is the same on both nodes, and check that
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I see nothing in the default conf files, or the zebra documentation
> >>>>>>>about an "OSPF key". Can you give more detail?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Ray
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On 13 Jun 2004 at 14:38, Vladimir Ivaschenko wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>OSPF routing should work by default.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Make sure that OSPF key is the same on both nodes, and check that
> >>>>>>>>routing tables are correct by doing "ip route". Note that if OSPF
is
> >>>>>>>>working you will have routes with "proto zebra" in the list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Ray Gwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Vladimir, I have one wisp-disp node up and running fine.  This
node has
> >>>>>>>>>an internet feed via eth0.  All hardware is Soekris 4521.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I have now up a second node.  This second node is wireless only.
> >>>>>>>>>That is, the second node's internet feed is one of the radios
> >>>>>>>>>connected to a small beam pointing at the first (working) node.
> >>>>>>>>>User's can associate with the second node, but there seems to be
a
> >>>>>>>>>routing problem.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>My question is, should the default wisp-disp zebra/ospf configs
work on
> >>>>>>>>>both nodes? If not, can you provide any clues about configuring
> >>>>>>>>>zebra/ospf for the two nodes?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Ray
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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