Facts? What the hell has not owning the ground or TA got to do with Bates?
We're making good money thanks to our manager? How the hell is that a fact? I think you're a bit confused. We're playing some good football (and some bad football) thanks to our manager. Go and read these web pages and then come back here and tell us it's all Bates's fault. http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110303/frustrated-boss-sees-his-targets-in-action_2247585_2306904 http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110302/the-player-search-continues_2247585_2305865 Grayson:- "Someone has suggested that we're not signing players because of Ken Bates wages policy...if we get promoted players will have their wages reviewed, but we're not making long-term policy decisions based on future performance and that is the only limit Ken Bates' wages policy is applying - for the future of Leeds United." http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110201/grayson-i-wasnt-wasting-time-or-money_2247585_2281213 And Paul C has just responded and agrees with me!!! I rest my case. He's a mate, but we do agree to disagree on some things. Facts or blind hatred Ian? Andy C On 6 March 2011 19:19, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > Who have we signed Andy? Why are we letting half of our first team walk > without signing new deals? > > Why do we not own the ground? Why do we not own Thorpe arch? Why are season > ticket prices rocketing and the fans being treated with, at best, contempt. > > We're making good money thanks to our manager. It is simply been frittered > away to some company incorporated in nevis whose shareholders are Swiss > trusts, whose beneficiaries are companies, whose trustees are > whoever.....you get the idea. > > These are the facts mate, as far as we know them. Jeepers, you think I WANT > this to be the truth?! Who do you think I am, Gary Neville?! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 6 Mar 2011, at 16:52, Andy Clayton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Can you show us the proof of Bates not investing the money? > > > > I recall at the time Simon said that some premium targets were not > available as their clubs wouldn't release them and at least one decided he > wanted to stay and fight for his place. > > > > I'm no Bates lover, but let's try and stick to the truth, in as much as > we know it, rather than what we would want it to be. > > > > Andy C > > > > > > > > On 6 Mar 2011, at 13:33, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> The fact is that we had the opportunity to invest in the team in > January. Grayson is a great manager who clearly knows where we need to > straighten. Crikey, those of us who watch Leeds regularly all do. He knows > his targets - we just didn't get them. Why? Because Bates won't invest the > money the club is making. Remember 'budgetting for 3rd exists and 25k fans a > home game'? The money is being taken away via a corporate structure that > even the most generous Bates advocates can see is designed to avoid tax and > get our money in the pockets of the mysterious types Bates claims not to > even know. > >> > >> Whatever you think about Johnson an Kilkenny, our manager thinks that > they are first team players. They have a right to secure the best deal for > themselves, the going rate. After all, they generate the cash that Bates > spirits away. > >> > >> We have to invest in the team if we want to progress - both new and > better players and in retaining our existing performers. > >> > >> Noone is calling for Ridsdale-esque largesse, just sensible, consistent > investment for the good of the team. We aren't getting that. > >> > >> Now come on scousers. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On 6 Mar 2011, at 07:32, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Take the blinkers off - we just invested in the permanant signing of a > >>> premiership centre back. We invested in a new right back at the start > of the > >>> season. We also invested in a premiership left back for the rest of the > >>> season. I know that they have tended to disappoint over the last month > but > >>> hey, that's life. I'm sure no one would accuse Bates of spending money > on > >>> players and then telling them to play badly. > >>> > >>> In any case I think that our defensive problems might well be sourced > in > >>> midfield and I don't think that it is beyond possibility that there > maybe > >>> some weaknesses shared between Johnson & Kilkenny (much as I'd like > them to > >>> stay....). > >>> > >>> Damian > >>> > >>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Sam, > >>>> ... > >>>> I do object to penny pinching with profits going who knows where. > >>>> The profits are not being reinvested. > >>>> A great attack does not excuse a weak defence. > >>>> This team with a bit of investment would be promoted. > >>>> The money is there, but the investments are not. > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>> > >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >> > >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
