I don't know how the extra votes are proposed to be counted, I didn't even think it had gotten that far, however..
In the olden days ballot slips were put into piles, and the piles counted. If you are voting for your local mp, you put an X by their name, these are looked at and put into their pile. With AV you rank candidates - you have more than 1 vote on the same bit of paper. Either you have more votes to count (3+ per ballot paper = 3x the number of votes to count potentially), or you put them into the same piles based on 1st preference.. then if there is not 50%+ for the "winner", the last place candidates papers are collected up and their second choices are noted and distributed accordingly. The latter is as I believe it works (based on what I heard John Reid explain). Now, either that happens manually, and will require extra work, both in checking the 2nd preference, moving them to the other piles then re-calculating the totals. Or it happens electronically, which will require these mythical counting machines? Of course, one could expect the volunteers who do the manual process to do this for nowt, but it is still more expensive, whether that is significant or not. (more to do, takes longer, more electricity, more heating, more tea and biscuits...) No? But anyhow, as I said before, I voted no purely and simply because I believe democracy was all about every person having an equal say, 1 person 1 vote. Or even everyone has 23.5 votes, the number of votes is irrelevant, apart from the increased cost ;-), its that I get as many bites at the cherry as that BNP voter down the road. -----Original Message----- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of barbaravi...@gmail.com Sent: 30 April 2011 08:24 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] non LU AV On 30/04/2011 07:34, Mark Humphries wrote: > How can it NOT cost more, you count all the votes as you do now, and > then if no one gets> 50% you count some more votes? Mark have you ever been to an election count? Every vote HAS to be counted. You can't come to a decision without that whatever the system (unless you live in some tinpot third world state run by Robert Mugabe of course, which we don't). Once they have all been counted the entire data set exists. This data set is then analysed by computer to show the results. Having been involved in an STV election here I can tell you it is frighteningly quick. One elections officer and a laptop verified by the returning officer shown to the candidates, announcement made, Boocock not elected. Betty _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
