Maybe left was a bad choice.
In fact it was.
But there is a level of liberal activism which is effecting policies and
actions in lots of spheres and walks of life.
I am against it.
Not because of the views that are forwarded but that the minute judiciary
'interfere' then the judiciary will be interfered with. And that is
catastrophic. They must never loose their judicial independence.
The same goes for journalism.
A long way from the riots but the point I was making is that the police and
rioters action are all influenced by new judicial norms.
That is why what, for me, is massive presence and apparently little effect.

Will someone burn down thew East Stand?
[A joke]
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On 9 August 2011 18:58, Matt Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well what Dr Mike said about liberalism is closer to the truth than
> bringing
> up stockwell.   I used the road wars thing as an example the other way.
> There are still people banging on about needed to understand these kids and
> address the source of their behaviour.  Fuck that!
>
>
>
> I’m sat in the middle of a lock down with police cars flying up and down
> the
> main road.  Every shop is boarded up in central Greenwich,  the tourists
> have all been sent home and the Police have banned access to the park for
> the scum gathered in Greenwich because the twitter info is that they are
> looking to damage the Maritime Museum.
>
>
>
> On this occasion as I’m sat in the middle of it I think I speak with a bit
> more authority than having an arse/opinion.
>
>
>
> From: Eric B [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 09 August 2011 16:30
> To: Matt Anderson
> Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
>
>
>
> "Eric how long have you lived in Britain?  I suggest you watch Road Wars on
> Sky 1 and watch how tough we are on drug dealers, joyriders,  max sentence
> is usually a caution and £50 fine!"
>
>
>
> its my third time here now, im into year 4. I d suggest there are better
> sources
>
> for info than SKY and that road war show. They are heavily narrated.
>
>
>
> This is a HIGHLY complex issue and I have not got the right skills to
> comment other things than my opinions. and yeah.. opinions, arses etc. we
> all got them.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matt Anderson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> There isn't a racial element but it will be made out to be one by the
> Guardian/Ken livingstone types.  Every (non-elected) community leader  is
> going to get his or her mug on TV now.
>
> In Clapham, Hackney, Woolwich the overwhelming majority of those filmed
> were
> black, however there were white kids too.  I think chavs is the correct
> term.
>
> The tube station incident was totally different,  that was terrorism,  this
> is civil unrest.
>
> Eric how long have you lived in Britain?  I suggest you watch Road Wars on
> Sky 1 and watch how tough we are on drug dealers, joyriders,  max sentence
> is usually a caution and £50 fine!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
>
> Behalf Of Eric B
> Sent: 09 August 2011 14:27
> To: Mark Humphries
> Cc: Leeds List
>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
>
> I was asking the person who asked if it was racial if that question could
> be
> substantiated. I think it was Matt A. that asked.
>
> How much power have police other countries got? Can you elaborate on this
> maybe? Its interesting.
> I woud have thought a police force that runs into a tube station and gets
> away with murdering a foreigner is pretty powerful.
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Mark Humphries <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I said it wasn’t racial.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > And our police have less powers than most, possibly all, other
> > European countries so not sure what your point is.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Eric B [mailto:[email protected]]
> > *Sent:* 09 August 2011 11:57
> > *To:* Ian Murray
> > *Cc:* Mark Humphries; Leeds List
> > *Subject:* Re: [LU] Riots****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > hello fellow east germans, ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > based on what thinking is it racial? As far as I can see its a mix of
> > ethnicities and colors. have you ****
> >
> > got other information? ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > also, give the police more powers yeah? they ve got all the fucking
> > CCTVs in the world, they ve got****
> >
> > extreme powers and what happens? NOTHING. Now they ll be asking for
> > more powers. Mark my word. ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > erich or whatever the east german version of eric is. ****
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Ian Murray
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:****
> >
> > Do we think there's a racial element to this?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone****
> >
> >
> > On 9 Aug 2011, at 07:59, "Mark Humphries"
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Water cannon with indelible ink, so they can get the fuckers over
> > > the
> > next
> > > few weeks.
> > >
> > > I also think we should have the army on the streets.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Wayne
> > > Sent: 08 August 2011 19:46
> > > To: Leeds List
> > > Subject: [LU] Riots
> > >
> > > Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing
> > > fck all. Shoot the cnuts... or at least set the water cannons on them.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Wayne
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