I grew up on council estates.  My parents always worked.  We didn't have a
phone in the house until 1981.  We didn't own a car.  My first pair of
football boots were moulded studs, back in the day when moulded studs were
the poor option.  I didn't have my first pair of "brand" trainers until I
bought them myself, from my wages, and I had to save up for them.  I didn't
drink or smoke.

They expect us to either think these chavs are poor, with their adidas
tracksuits, calvin klein boxers, gold necklaces, diamond earrings, iphones
etc etc, or it in some way excuses them for being cunts?

Most NORMAL people, most POOR people, if they want something they save their
money and buy it when they have saved up enough money.  They don't think,
"fuck this, I cant afford a new phone, I will go and mug someone (who has
saved up themselves to buy it)".  They don't think "I know, I'll go and burn
a fucking car because I cant afford a car like that".  They don't think, "I
am going to break in to poundland".  Poundland!!  If that alone doesn't tell
you everything about why they are doing this.

Nothing to do with money, nothing to do with poverty, nothing to do with
jobs or the economy, nothing to do with some kind of social revolution, just
pure cheap thrills of nicking gear and smashing stuff up.  

No respect for other peoples property because they expect and demand society
gives them everything, they think the state owes them everything.  They have
never had to save for anything, they just get given it or take it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Matt Anderson
Sent: 09 August 2011 20:26
To: Damian Walsh
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots

There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs and phones and
the met's leadership or boris's holiday. 

That's nonsense. 

I bet 90% don't know who the mayor is


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On 9 Aug 2011, at 17:59, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote:

> There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on 
> the list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it 
> show how many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever
true before.
> All we have to do is get the next generation of potential rioters in 
> too then there'll be no more problems.
> 
> As for the Police. I think thay have much much more power than any of 
> their continental European counterparts - the problem isn't there. 
> Maybe it's more to do with the loss of the Mets senior leadership over 
> the last few weeks plus a massive loss of confidence due to the 
> apparently substansiated allegations of corruption at the highest 
> levels of the Met. Where is the Mayor too? No leadership = vaccum 
> (sp?) = field day for rioters
> 
> Damian
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