Go play with your willie you silly little boy.  You are proved wrong more
times than anyone else in the history of this list.

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/
leeds_united_big_guns_will_not_be_leaving_whites_grayson_1_4167409

Asked if Howson's desire to move on pointed to a lack of ambition at Elland
Road, Grayson said: "I don't think so. He sees what we're trying to do but
it's a toss of a coin. How can you say who's going to get promoted
definitely? We'd all come up with different answers.

"Jonny firmly believed that we could do it but it wasn't guaranteed. He's
now got the guarantee that he's going to play X-amount of football in the
Premier League. If Norwich survive and stay up - and there's a good chance
they will - then he's got another crack at it

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Walker [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 21 January 2012 10:24
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: <[email protected]>; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Midfielder upgrade part 2

What a twat!

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Jan 2012, at 10:10, "Mark Humphries" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I never claim to know anything.  It is you who is claiming Bates is 
> definitely underpaying our players, so prove it.
> 
> I am saying that it is unreasonable to expect ANY championship club, 
> who do not have parachute payments OR a sugar daddy, to be able to 
> compete with ANY contract offered by ANY premiership club.
> 
> More importantly, and you really need to understand this, I am also 
> saying that it is unreasonable to expect the club to compete with ANY 
> championship club who are in receipt of parachute payments, OR who have a
sugar daddy.
> 
> Because of that, it is unreasonable to expect us to be paying high 
> enough wages to convince our players, who apparently need convincing, 
> we are "serious" about getting promoted, because that level of wages 
> is unsustainable without parachute payments or a sugar daddy.
> 
> Regardless of where we rank in the championship in terms of ticket 
> prices and gate receipts.
> 
> Let me rephrase for clarity, in my opinion it is entirely unreasonable 
> to expect our wages (and transfer) budget, compared with other 
> championship clubs, to be directly ranked alongside our ticket prices/gate
receipts.
> Because there are too many clubs who have artificially high 
> wage/transfer budgets due to parachute payments or sugar daddies.
> 
> Because of that, it is unreasonable to expect us to be able to 
> demonstrate ambition to players based simply on wages/transfer budget 
> - BECAUSE WE WILL NEVER BE IN THE TOP 2, AND UNLIKELY TO BE IN THE TOP 
> 6 based on that criteria.
> 
> I also don't believe, based on what HOWSON HIMSELF SAID that the size 
> of the contract on offer had anything to do with him not signing a
contract.
> I also don't believe, based on what HOWSON HIMSELF SAID, that he 
> perceived any lack of ambition to get promoted based on wages/transfers.
> I also don't believe Bates is putting enough dosh into the club, but I 
> don't believe it would make much material difference because there is 
> no way we could compete with parachuted clubs anyhow.
> 
> That's all I have to say on the matter.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Cundell
> Sent: 21 January 2012 09:51
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] Midfielder upgrade part 2
> 
>> None of us know the salaries/packages either then or now.
> 
> But Mark, you don't usually need to know anything, you only have to 
> think it.
> 
> 
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