As has been said Jeremey it was late, those who where interested where somehat deflated so left any posting, those who wheren't had no cause to. If engerlund had won no doubt there would have been an outpouring(maybe).
Personally all in all I didn't think it was to bad, considering where england where coming from. I can understand Dave being gutted but I think Betty summed it up. With the limited time Hodgson had, the talent[sic] he had available, the state of national team and english football all-in-all I think they made a good fist of it. Remember this team was being written off before the competition started as not even getting out of the group stage. As for being "the worst team in the competition" Dr M take your blinkers off. By a country mile that was the Irish, and england wheren't the next worst. At least they got out of their group unlike the dutch. How appropiate it was that after the final group game the heavens opened here and it continued all next day so the country was a wet mess of soggy collapsing orange bunting and flags. Yes, I think the Premiership has a lot to answer for.and as for all the hype about it being the best league in the world. I do think with Hodson there is cause for hope, but it will not be immediate. Someone said this morning, I think on the Today programme, give it 10 to 12 years. Hodgson said they had trained for penalties and Cole and Young where knocking them in but you can't train to replicate the tiredness in limbs and how they feel after 120 minutes, the tension and nerves. Anyway the penalties are a distraction. Italy where clearly the better team but england held up against them playing to their abilities. Apart from hitting the woodwork twice, missing from 4 yards, shooting over from two yards, getting an offside ball in the net, keeping Hart busy and Lescott clearing off the line what did the Italians do against us? And it's not all over, the Euro's that is, there's still the semi's as well as the final. Sit and, hopefully, enjoy some good football. It's quite possible to enjoy the beautiful game even when the team you follow is not playing and there's been some good games so far. Still, I do agree with Da Rev and bring on Le Tour where's there's feasible chance of brits in both the yellow and green jerseys. And then there's the Olympics - got my tickets delivered last week. guy On 25 Jun 2012 at 2:17, Jeremy Adams wrote: > > Okay, this list is really on it's last legs it seems. I know it's a Leeds > list and we're far away from the England International scene but England have > jsut played a quarter final against Italy and lost on pens and not ONE post > about it??????? Okay, well now there's one. > 1. Apart from the first 10 minutes England were rubbish and if Italy hadn't > left their shooting boots at home England would have and should have lost > this game 4-0 at least.2. Italy decided Gerrard was the playmaker and so put > at least two players on him at all times and played him right out of the > game. England just let Pirlo rule the midfield, they backed off and backed > off and let him walk the ball up into England's final third. Shocking.3. > Positives. England tried hard and put a lot of energy in.4. Passing. > Unbelievable how bad England's passing was all night, simple 5 yard balls > were overhit, bad passing choices were made with passes going to marked > teammates, and in addition long hopeful punts upfield were gobbled up by the > Italian defence. Also, England simply didn't try and use the width of the > park, even when Walcott came on they rarely tried to push down the wings.5. > Woeful and should be dropped. Wayne Rooney, Ashley Young, Steven Gerrard, and > Danny Welbeck. Utter u > tter anonymity from those four.6. Deserve a grudging nod of respect. Joleon > Lescott - Made a number of vital last ditch blocks. Milner - He tried and > tried and tried although nothing came off. Glen Johnson - Again seemed to > make a number of important blocks, and tried pushing forward. He got the ball > caught under his feet for his goal attempt but nearly scored, actually a > great save from Buffon. Ashley Cole - Defended well, tried to get forward, > had the balls to stand up there and take that all important penalty at least > even though he completely bottled it.7. Hodgson - Did the best job he could > with a bunch of average players, tried to do a Greece 2004 and wasn't far > off, those kind of tactics only work once in 20 odd years.8. The future - > Well this tournament has yet again highlighted how technically and football > "brainwise" England are years behind the four semi finalists. Pirlo tonight > controlled that game, we simply haven't had a playmaker in years, since, well > I don' t > know, since Hoddle or Gascoigne or David Platt for F*cks sake. Lampard and > Gerrard are pretenders at international level. Problem tonight was Gerrard > thought he was Pirlo and tried to play his game and simply got tackled every > time he got the ball.9. For me Germany are the best team, Spain can bore me > to death at times with their patient buildups. Germany are great at defending > and reading the game and cutting out passes and turning defence into attack. > They are exciting to watch and I'm actually glad we lost here and weren't > subject to humiliation under the hands of Zee Germans, they would have > embarrassed more than the last drubbing at the world cup.10. I'm now 47 years > old and I'm at the point that I don't really give a toss anymore, 10 years > ago I would have been down the pub for this and would have been gutted at the > penalty loss and would have got blathered and then moped for days. Today I > went to a friend's house, had some lovely barbecued flank steak, and fresh veg , > went for a swim and then watched the game from the comfort of his couch. > When we went out I simply didn't care, I'm done with footy at that level, > means nothing anymore. > Goodnight > Jeremy _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
