IMO the Euros should be scrapped right now.. There is a clear conflict of
interests when Germany plays countries that it owns or is well on the way
to. Greece, Italy, Portugal or Spain. This is a stitch up.
Give Angela the cup now and lets sleep night
On Jun 25, 2012 1:21 PM, "Guy Thornton" <[email protected]> wrote:

> As has been said Jeremey it was late, those who where interested where
> somehat deflated
> so left any posting, those who wheren't had no cause to. If engerlund had
> won no doubt
> there would have been an outpouring(maybe).
>
> Personally all in all I didn't think it was to bad, considering where
> england where coming
> from. I can understand Dave being gutted but I think Betty summed it up.
> With the limited
> time Hodgson had, the talent[sic] he had available, the state of national
> team and english
> football all-in-all I think they made a good fist of it. Remember this
> team was being written
> off before the competition started as not even getting out of the group
> stage.
>
> As for being "the worst team in the competition" Dr M take your blinkers
> off. By a country
> mile that was the Irish, and england wheren't the next worst. At least
> they got out of their
> group unlike the dutch. How appropiate it was that after the final group
> game the heavens
> opened here and it continued all next day so the country was a wet mess of
> soggy
> collapsing orange bunting and flags.
>
> Yes, I think the Premiership has a lot to answer for.and as for all the
> hype about it being the
> best league in the world. I do think with Hodson there is cause for hope,
> but it will not be
> immediate. Someone said this morning, I think on the Today programme, give
> it 10 to 12
> years. Hodgson said they had trained for penalties and Cole and Young
> where knocking
> them in but you can't train to replicate the tiredness in limbs and how
> they feel after 120
> minutes, the tension and nerves. Anyway the penalties are a distraction.
> Italy where clearly
> the better team but england held up against them playing to their
> abilities. Apart from hitting
> the woodwork twice, missing from 4 yards, shooting over from two yards,
> getting an offside
> ball in the net, keeping Hart busy and Lescott clearing off the line what
> did the Italians do
> against us?
>
> And it's not all over, the Euro's that is, there's still the semi's as
> well as the final. Sit and,
> hopefully, enjoy some good football. It's quite possible to enjoy the
> beautiful game even
> when the team you follow is not playing and there's been some good games
> so far. Still, I do
> agree with Da Rev and bring on Le Tour where's there's feasible chance of
> brits in both the
> yellow and green jerseys. And then there's the Olympics - got my tickets
> delivered last
> week.
>
> guy
>
>
> On 25 Jun 2012 at 2:17, Jeremy Adams wrote:
>
> >
> > Okay, this list is really on it's last legs it seems. I know it's a
> Leeds list and we're far away from the England International scene but
> England have jsut played a quarter final against Italy and lost on pens and
> not ONE post about it??????? Okay, well now there's one.
> > 1. Apart from the first 10 minutes England were rubbish and if Italy
> hadn't left their shooting boots at home England would have and should have
> lost this game 4-0 at least.2. Italy decided Gerrard was the playmaker and
> so put at least two players on him at all times and played him right out of
> the game. England just let Pirlo rule the midfield, they backed off and
> backed off and let him walk the ball up into England's final third.
> Shocking.3. Positives. England tried hard and put a lot of energy in.4.
> Passing. Unbelievable how bad England's passing was all night, simple 5
> yard balls were overhit, bad passing choices were made with passes going to
> marked teammates, and in addition long hopeful punts upfield were gobbled
> up by the Italian defence. Also, England simply didn't try and use the
> width of the park, even when Walcott came on they rarely tried to push down
> the wings.5. Woeful and should be dropped. Wayne Rooney, Ashley Young,
> Steven Gerrard, and Danny Welbeck. Utter
>  u
> >  tter anonymity from those four.6. Deserve a grudging nod of respect.
> Joleon Lescott - Made a number of vital last ditch blocks. Milner - He
> tried and tried and tried although nothing came off. Glen Johnson - Again
> seemed to make a number of important blocks, and tried pushing forward. He
> got the ball caught under his feet for his goal attempt but nearly scored,
> actually a great save from Buffon. Ashley Cole - Defended well, tried to
> get forward, had the balls to stand up there and take that all important
> penalty at least even though he completely bottled it.7. Hodgson - Did the
> best job he could with a bunch of average players, tried to do a Greece
> 2004 and wasn't far off, those kind of tactics only work once in 20 odd
> years.8. The future - Well this tournament has yet again highlighted how
> technically and football "brainwise" England are years behind the four semi
> finalists. Pirlo tonight controlled that game, we simply haven't had a
> playmaker in years, since, well I don'
>  t
> >  know, since Hoddle or Gascoigne or David Platt for F*cks sake. Lampard
> and Gerrard are pretenders at international level. Problem tonight was
> Gerrard thought he was Pirlo and tried to play his game and simply got
> tackled every time he got the ball.9. For me Germany are the best team,
> Spain can bore me to death at times with their patient buildups. Germany
> are great at defending and reading the game and cutting out passes and
> turning defence into attack. They are exciting to watch and I'm actually
> glad we lost here and weren't subject to humiliation under the hands of Zee
> Germans, they would have embarrassed more than the last drubbing at the
> world cup.10. I'm now 47 years old and I'm at the point that I don't really
> give a toss anymore, 10 years ago I would have been down the pub for this
> and would have been gutted at the penalty loss and would have got blathered
> and then moped for days. Today I went to a friend's house, had some lovely
> barbecued flank steak, and fresh veg
>  ,
> >  went for a swim and then watched the game from the comfort of his
> couch. When we went out I simply didn't care, I'm done with footy at that
> level, means nothing anymore.
> > Goodnight
> > Jeremy
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