I've not been to many matches in the last few years, most of my friends are 
white and I live a middle-class life.

However, I live in a city, have lived through times when it was blindingly 
obvious that racism was a problem, and recent times when it seems to barely 
exist. I am staggered about claims that racism is on the rise - either in 
football or society in general.

In fact, I just don't believe it.

Obviously there are clear examples of racism. Certain areas like Burnley (or 
Bradford) that are not well integrated. I hear racist things from older people  
- often out of ignorance. But nowhere else. Not when I'm out, when I'm at work, 
when my kids have friends round, when I'm shopping/on the train/the bus 
etc....Isn't it just a 1950-1990 problem that's just dying out?

It's unlikely you can beat out the racist attitudes of older people. That will 
die with them. Communities that are ridden with race hatred need specific 
social solutions to sort them out..... but surely there's little point in 
banging on about having quotas for interviewing black managers, going on some 
raging witch hunt to find anyone that's ever muttered something that may sound 
racist on a football pitch or hunting out some stupid occasional knobheads in 
the crowd. Setting up rival campaigns to "kick it out" etc?

The number of racist incidents are so high profile that you know about them and 
therefore know how rare they are: Ron Atkinson, Suarez, Terry ........ that's 
three in 5+ years? And how often is there racist chanting? There's loads of 
foreign managers, loads of black players.... And black managers are starting to 
appear more often (and there's bound to be more in future with the number of 
black players these days).

I don't get it, but really suspect it's like the mythical rise in knife crime 
of a few years back, the belief that it's not safe for kids to play out anymore 
etc etc

And yet..... why are sane enough black people in football, like Rio Ferdinand, 
convinced there is a problem? Maybe I'm just well out of touch?



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Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:19:18 +0000

From: Ian Murray <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

To: David Nattan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

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All this hysteria over racism in the game lately is doing my head in. Honestly, 
when was the last time you heard any racist chanting at a game?

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