Radio 4 had a series of short "letters" from Germany last week and made very interesting listening, http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p011ky0f , they didn't all paint a rosy picture of their own country, particularly in the aspect of east/west integration or lack of it and they saw things to be appreciated from the UK - guess the grass is always greener etc etc
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Leslie snip The Germans have got so many things right IMHO. Been over there a few times now and just think they have got it right on so many levels. snip . Cheap tickets, great atmosphere, beer and food in and around the ground. Plus you get a sticker on every pub door, which denotes whether it is a smoking pub or a smoke free one, exactly what IMHO we should have done in this country. If you haven't been, go to Dusselfdorf via Jet2 and spend a weekend in the Altstadt with a few mates (Try the brilliant Pork Sarnie shop in the middle of the main drag at around 11PM, you'll never want to eat a mucky kebab again!). HufHauses, Precision engineering that works, good but cheap software (Teamviewer and PRTG are superb for the price!), the ability to drive like a mature adult on the Autobahn. snip Absolutely spot on. Been 4 times this year, paid approx. £36 return Inc. taxes etc. with Ryanair from Leeds to Weeze. Cheaper than London and more people speak English than in London. All our politicians and journalists should be made to go there to see how a modern country should be run and what we should aspire to. All we seem to read is how we won the war/world cup/Germans have no sense of humour and its all tosh. When you come back here you realise how we're slipping into becoming a third world country. > I remember it being considered 'poncy' to go in any seats. > > On 3 Dec 2012, at 11:41, David Nattan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/de >> c/02/ermany-bundesliga-noisy-fans >> >> A real reminder of the good old days at ER and elsewhere - half of me >> does not want Prem football because it is so sanitised and seems to >> be getting worse season by season. I hardly watch any football inc >> MOTD and part of that is down to the total lack of atmosphere at the >> grounds. ER is getting worse every year and only partly due to the >> team and the general malaise around the club - all seaters and over >> enthusiastic stewarding etc are killing it all and driving away the >> old , mainly working class*, fans who used a Saturday afternoon to >> get rid of all their pent up emotions etc. >> Costs need to come down and safe standing areas are a must in my view >> (albeit I would stay in the seats!) >> >> Dave >> *( I know I am firmly middle class) >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
