Manchester United, Liverpool, both in serious debt. You wouldn't call top 6 premier league status successful? And if a club is bankrolled (name me one club that isn't) then that doesn't count? It's all or nothing then - premier league champions within two years or you'll view Cellino as a failure? You must have become accustomed to disappointment!
On 20 Jun 2014, at 21:53, Jim Moran <[email protected]> wrote: > All rich clubs. Liverpool's successful period was a series of boot room boys > and they all lasted years. Don't forget they've not won a league title for 24 > years. Chelsea bankrolled. Man city bankrolled. Spurs? Fuck me. They've won > fuck all in the modern era but the FA cup every 10-20 years. Celtic play in a > 2 horse race league. Don't get any of your argument, sorry. > > -- > > On 20 Jun 2014, at 21:36, Chris Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Do we? I think its true to say that the most successful manager in history - >> Alex Ferguson, was in position for the longest time, but Chelsea? Manchester >> City? Tottenham Hotspur, Glasgow Celtic, Liverpool. all successful clubs, >> all change managers at the drop of a hat. The only reason we think the >> recipe for success is longevity is Alec Ferguson and Arsene Wenger, two >> remarkable coaches. To say that is the only way to success is like saying >> the winner of the lottery is very rich therefore I'll play the lottery every >> week until I win it. >> >> The fact is we don't really know what we're in for - we all agree that our >> history of owners has been a slow descent into purgatory, starting with the >> idiot that bought Thomas Brolin, Bill Fotherby. Since then its been downhill >> all the way. Fact is today we're a mid table second division club with no >> stadium and massive debts. Cellino has paid off many of those debts, kept us >> alive in fact yet the dissenters still moan because he hasn't bought back >> the stadium and Thorp Arch. Would you? Seriously? We are losing money at a >> frightening rate. The owner has plugged the gaps, steadied the ship and done >> it with speed. So far, so good. >> >> I don't know where this will end, but we have a wealthy owner with a >> successful record in Italy, one of the leading football countries in the >> world. It cannot possibly be worse than the nightmare pairing of Brian >> McDermott and David Haigh. If those two had stayed at the helm, relegation >> would be the least of our worries. And so many people wanting Gary >> McAllister back - what exactly is it about his record as a coach that makes >> anyone think he'd do a job for us? Legendary player yes. Manager? Bloody >> useless. >> >> Chris >> >> Chris Wright >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 20 Jun 2014, at 19:51, Jim Moran <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We also know that unless you're able to buy the best players in the world, >>> that sacking managers and coaches regularly never, ever, leads to success. >>> >>> -- >>> >>>> On 20 Jun 2014, at 19:30, Chris Wright <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think Cellino has said on many occasions that he is employing a coach >>>> not a manager. Yesterday the press bandied the term 'manager' about until >>>> an exasperated Massimo said "Coach, Manager, Super Manager...what's the >>>> difference..." thus delivering a headline on a plate. >>>> >>>> Rationally, I've had more than enough of the McDermotts and Warnocks of >>>> this world. I'm absolutely with Cellino when he referred scathingly to >>>> modern managers as "PR men, bullshitters" we've had enough of these >>>> tossers surely? Both McDermott and Warnock were absolutely clueless, >>>> Warnock was past his sell by date and McDermott was just a PR man. He told >>>> us what we wanted to hear, no more, no less. >>>> >>>> Its going to be a bumpy ride I'm sure, but Massimo has provided hours of >>>> entertainment so far, most notably at the expense of alleged fraudster >>>> David Haigh. Frankly, even ignoring the allegations of theft surrounding >>>> that resident of a Dubai jail, did anyone seriously think GFK or whatever >>>> they called themselves were doing a good job? Proper Millionaires tend to >>>> have ideas. Ours obviously knows something about football, he kept >>>> Cagliari in the top division in Italy for years, right now I'd happily >>>> take that. >>>> >>>> If Wackaday doesn't work out, he'll be history before he can blink. That >>>> much about Cellino we know. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> Chris Wright >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
