Only area of disagreement with Rich is Rapha - we didn’t have a best player last night - aside from 5 minutes in the second half he did little to nowt, and I was surprised he didn’t get sent off.
Bizarrely, imho, one player we are missing is Cooper - he might be too slow at times, but generally he knows where he should be. Struijk had his worst game ever last night, and Ayling is not a centre-back, although I’d give him the ‘tried-hardest’ badge for last night. Unless Marsch wakes up re player positions, we’ve had it. I think it’s going to be a bitter end to the Bielsa era, but at least we got to see Bielsa-ball for a couple of years - we’ll never see the like again :-( Very glad the Norwich game isn’t televised! Sent from my iPad > On 11 Mar 2022, at 08:48, Robert Heath <[email protected]> wrote: > > Still it's not all doom & gloom.............Derby and Chelsea are both in > serious shit! > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:42 AM [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Agree with that Rich - I swear if I have to watch another lofted ball from >> Koch, dropped into the box from 50 yards out, with no one in sight but >> their keeper… >> >> How bad was that? I left bang on the whistle and walked straight on to the >> first bus in the station and got a seat…no mad queues watching the first 5 >> or 6 buses leave, all the folk buzzing and chattering about something >> brilliant in the game. Flat. We have forgotten what it was like before and >> become inured. >> >> A wise woman once sang ‘you don’t know what you got til it’s gone’. >> >> Nick >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 11 Mar 2022, at 08:15, Richard Walker via Leedslist < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Couldn't get to sleep last night after that performance. Yes I felt it >> was time for Bielsa to go but not to be replaced by this, which is the >> worst of Heckingbottom, Blackwell and Warnock. Marsch has a difficult job >> but when it was said that he is the ideal person to replace Bielsa because >> he plays the same pressing, attacking style nothing could be further from >> the truth. >>> He is trying to make us compact by packing the midfield and bringing the >> wingers more central. This totally negates any attacking options we have. >> We were all about fast movment from defence to attack, down the wings with >> overlapping wing backs. That's gone, Bielsa ball is dead and we're left >> with midfielders who are not midfielders on the ball not knowing what to >> do. As performances go that's the most clueless I've seen us since the >> Heckingbottom days. Ok we've suffered some bad defeats under Bielsa >> recently but in those games we kept going and still created chances. We >> didn't create anything that troubled their keeper last night. The crowd got >> on the backs of the players and when their 3rd went in a chant of Marcelo >> Bielsa echoed around the ground and then a large number of fans actually >> left. The ground was half empty by the final whistle. >>> A bloke behind me shouted "This is the sort of shit we used to see >> before Bielsa came" - he was spot on. Clueless, pedestrian with players >> playing out of position. Koch is a disaster in midfield. All the fans can >> see it but yet the coach can't. Bielsa was the same although I'd argue he >> had a specific role ('the Philips') role which is more of a sweeper >> whereas Marsch is playing Koch as a fully fledged midfielder who was >> actually playing in an advanced role at times and actually had one of our >> best chances second half. In a true central defender playing in midfield >> style he blasted into the safe seating rail section (whatever the feck that >> is !?). >>> Then we've got Ayling playing a centre back. Who told Marsch that Ayling >> was a centre back ? Yes he filled in at times under Bielsa but only when >> we've had injuries to most of our central defenders. Now we've got a German >> international defender playing in midfield and a Spanish international >> defender on the bench. Surely Ayling to right back, Koch to central defence >> and Dallas into midfield would have been the obvious ? >>> Ayling and Struijk for me would worry me in the championship but against >> Countinho and Ings we're always going to be in trouble. It could have been >> more than 3. Struijk continues to disappoint me and he was skinned badly on >> one occassion. I don't think he's premiership ... yet >>> The main problem for Marsch is that he's packing the midfield but we >> haven't got any midfielders ! He's a manager who needed to get players in >> January to meet his tactics. There's little point in asking Raph to play >> central midfield which is where he found himself. >>> My overall view is of complete depression knowing that the Bielsa years >> are over and we're back to this type of football. Maybe Marsch will get it >> right in the Summer but I just can't see him turning this team around and >> playing the tactics he wants. Bamford will help but is he fit ? >>> We need to get behind the players and manager for the Norwich game. THe >> crowd were quick to get on their backs last night and the boos at half-time >> were the loudest for many a year. There was no 2nd half rallying after the >> initial promising 10 mins and we threw in the towel. >>> It's going to be hard. >>> scores: >>> Miesler - 7. Some decent saves to keep us in it first half >>> Dallas - 4. Really struggled at right back >>> Firpo - 1. He's been a disaster. Eitehr injured or ineffective. Always >> fouling and getting booked because he doesn't know how to defend. He's >> njured now and I think that's the best for the team. We have missed >> Allioski this season. I'dtry to get him back but then again Marsch would >> probably play him in central midfield. >>> Sruijk - 3. Passsing poor, defending poor. Has been poor for a few games >> now. >>> >>> Ayling - 5. At least he put some tackles in and tried to push forward >> but he's no central defender >>> Forshaw - 4. That was his worst game for Leeds >>> Koch - 2 Awful / out of position >>> Raphinha - 6. Our best player on the night >>> Rodrigo - 0. Bloody rubbish - gave the ball away everytime he got it. >> What a disaster he has been and I really liked the look of him last season >> at times >>> Harrison - 1. Not much better than Rodrigo >>> James - 4. Lots of effort but not effective. Another player , playing >> out of position >>> >>> Subs: >>> Joffy - 5. Tried but I'm going to say this lad is not ready for the >> first team yet >>> Klich - 0 nothing >>> Bamford - 5. >>> Happy Friday All. 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