Ok, I didn’t check the table before posting, but we’re still 5th, and 3
   points off the top, so everything to play for!

   I like the fact it looks like there won’t be 3 runaway teams this year
   - if a very average Sunderland are top we’ll do ok. I think the
   enforced changes have made us more attack-focussed tbh, and I enjoyed
   watching last night, apart from the last 2 minutes. I am however never
   happy defending a 1 goal lead - time and again we find ways to cock it
   up! Last night’s was something very special in that category :-)

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     On 5 Oct 2024, at 17:07, [email protected] wrote:

   
   I would argue that if you've been supporting Leeds United for more than
   half a century (as I have - and I believe I'm far from the
   longest-serving supporter on this list!) and you're not a
   glass-half-empty person, then you haven't been paying attention (or are
   on some sort of mood-altering drugs). I said to my dad with five
   minutes to go yesterday, words to the effect of, "You know they're
   going to score, it's just a question of how." (I also told him a few
   minutes before that, "It's the hope that kills.") Supporting Leeds
   United is just committing to a life of disappointment. We've achieved
   what I would call something worth celebrating (a trophy won or a
   promotion gained) only five times in 51 years of support. In that time
   we have never, ever won a knock-out tournament.
   On Saturday, October 5, 2024 at 11:30:10 AM EDT, Robert Heath
   <[email protected]> wrote:
   "Of note, we've played four of the other five in the top six and have
   failed to beat any of them. "
   Oooh that's a bit glass half empty!
   One could also say we have already visited 3 of the top 5 and are
   unbeaten in those games.
   On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 4:23 PM seanscribe--- via Leedslist
   <[1][email protected]> wrote:

      Whoever told you that the worst we could end up at the end of the
     weekend is 4th is not to be trusted with any sort of responsibility
     that involves mathematics. If West Brom get at least a point, and if
     Blackburn win their game and the 'Boro/Watford game has a winner,
     we're down to seventh.
     At the time of writing we're 5th in the live table. Of note, we've
     played four of the other five in the top six and have failed to beat
     any of them. We play the only remaining team in that group next.
     Cheers!
     Sean
         On Saturday, October 5, 2024 at 07:46:12 AM EDT, John Lee via
     Leedslist <[2][email protected]> wrote:
      OK, the final 2 minutes took the gloss off the performance, but
     otherwise it was a very impressive performance against the top of
     the table side, albeit they look a bit crap imho.
     Weird things happen re the bounce of the ball, spin, divots etc, and
     given Meslier didn’t lay a finger on the ball suggests some Shane
     Warne style skulduggery in play. Just unlucky, and 99% of other
     goalies would have suffered the same fate - split-second bounce and
     it’s in! Memories of Seaman and the ball bouncing over his arms
     after hitting a divot!
     I’ve never been a big Gnonto fan, but I thought he was excellent
     last night and, somewhat surpringly, kept his cool despite the
     repeated attention he got! I also thought Tanaka and Rothwell did
     pretty well - let’s hope that partnership develops and stays fit!
     Aaronsen still runs around like a headless chicken, panicking both
     sides in equal measure :-) I like him tbh, but him in particular,
     and others, give the ball away far too often for my liking.
     I blame not getting 3 points on the overly cautious tactics once
     we’d got the second - they were there for the taking, but once again
     we didn’t go for it - it’s a bad habit, and 1-goal leads often come
     back to bite you!
     I can’t really fathom bringing Joseph on ahead of Bamford. Piroe did
     ok, got a good goal, albeit possibly offside, but Bamford is a far
     better defender at corners, and better at closing men down. I like
     the look of Schmidt in the very brief cameos he’s had so far too.
     Someone posted that the worst we can be after the weekend is 4th, so
     it’s not all doom and gloom, despite THAT goal.
     Finally, what a joy it was to see all those Wearside maggots
     slinking out after 80 minutes, leaving the stands half empty by the
     end. They knew they’d been tupped!
     > On 5 Oct 2024, at 11:25, nattan--- via Leedslist
     <[3][email protected]> wrote:
     >
     >  Its a team game so always hard to blame an individual especially
     for one error. Having said that it was a huge mistake and very
     costly since we had no time to change the result Overall Meslier has
     not been impressive or lived up to his early promise.  His saves /
     goals xg or whatever it us for keepers has been one of the worst in
     the division.  At one point something like 16 shots on target from
     17 went in the net - not greatThe main problem is he is so much
     better than his would be replacement,  Darlow,  who is awful
     > Whether the 2pts from these games is sufficient only time will
     tell but we could and should have won them both so there is lots to
     be happy about especially given our injuries - 2 from 4 wingers out
     ( hopefully DJ and Solomon will be back for Sheff game) and 2 of 4
     midfielders out for months Heads up and go again in 2 weeks - hoping
     that the likes of Tanaka and Aaronson dont suffer on international
     dutyDave
     >    On Saturday, 5 October 2024 at 08:48:59 BST,
     [4][email protected] <[5][email protected]> wrote:
     >
     > Well, we would have taken a draw before kick off, so there’s that.
     It is a good result. First points they’ve dropped at home, I think.
     >
     > And yeah Meslier, something weird happened on the spin / flight of
     that ball…
     >
     > But it’s team sport and if we are blaming him for costing us 2
     points last night, then we are also blaming Aaronson for the 2
     points lost against Portsmouth, Solomon for the 2 (at least) lost
     against Burnley, and Rodon against Norwich. Aren’t we?
     >
     > It’s a good result, especially given our suddenly threadbare
     midfield.
     >
     > Nick
     >
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