Just Google “Best Keeper in the Championship”

They use all sorts of criteria, but first or second every time is Meslier.

He’s human - shit happens. But he is better than almost any alternative at this 
level.

Nick


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> From: John Lee via Leedslist <[email protected]>
> Date: 5 October 2024 at 18:26:53 BST
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: leeds list <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] 2-
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> 
>    Ok, I didn’t check the table before posting, but we’re still 5th, and 3
>   points off the top, so everything to play for!
> 
>   I like the fact it looks like there won’t be 3 runaway teams this year
>   - if a very average Sunderland are top we’ll do ok. I think the
>   enforced changes have made us more attack-focussed tbh, and I enjoyed
>   watching last night, apart from the last 2 minutes. I am however never
>   happy defending a 1 goal lead - time and again we find ways to cock it
>   up! Last night’s was something very special in that category :-)
> 
>   Sent from my iPad
> 
>     On 5 Oct 2024, at 17:07, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>   
>   I would argue that if you've been supporting Leeds United for more than
>   half a century (as I have - and I believe I'm far from the
>   longest-serving supporter on this list!) and you're not a
>   glass-half-empty person, then you haven't been paying attention (or are
>   on some sort of mood-altering drugs). I said to my dad with five
>   minutes to go yesterday, words to the effect of, "You know they're
>   going to score, it's just a question of how." (I also told him a few
>   minutes before that, "It's the hope that kills.") Supporting Leeds
>   United is just committing to a life of disappointment. We've achieved
>   what I would call something worth celebrating (a trophy won or a
>   promotion gained) only five times in 51 years of support. In that time
>   we have never, ever won a knock-out tournament.
>   On Saturday, October 5, 2024 at 11:30:10 AM EDT, Robert Heath
>   <[email protected]> wrote:
>   "Of note, we've played four of the other five in the top six and have
>   failed to beat any of them. "
>   Oooh that's a bit glass half empty!
>   One could also say we have already visited 3 of the top 5 and are
>   unbeaten in those games.
>   On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 4:23 PM seanscribe--- via Leedslist
>   <[1][email protected]> wrote:
> 
>      Whoever told you that the worst we could end up at the end of the
>     weekend is 4th is not to be trusted with any sort of responsibility
>     that involves mathematics. If West Brom get at least a point, and if
>     Blackburn win their game and the 'Boro/Watford game has a winner,
>     we're down to seventh.
>     At the time of writing we're 5th in the live table. Of note, we've
>     played four of the other five in the top six and have failed to beat
>     any of them. We play the only remaining team in that group next.
>     Cheers!
>     Sean
>         On Saturday, October 5, 2024 at 07:46:12 AM EDT, John Lee via
>     Leedslist <[2][email protected]> wrote:
>      OK, the final 2 minutes took the gloss off the performance, but
>     otherwise it was a very impressive performance against the top of
>     the table side, albeit they look a bit crap imho.
>     Weird things happen re the bounce of the ball, spin, divots etc, and
>     given Meslier didn’t lay a finger on the ball suggests some Shane
>     Warne style skulduggery in play. Just unlucky, and 99% of other
>     goalies would have suffered the same fate - split-second bounce and
>     it’s in! Memories of Seaman and the ball bouncing over his arms
>     after hitting a divot!
>     I’ve never been a big Gnonto fan, but I thought he was excellent
>     last night and, somewhat surpringly, kept his cool despite the
>     repeated attention he got! I also thought Tanaka and Rothwell did
>     pretty well - let’s hope that partnership develops and stays fit!
>     Aaronsen still runs around like a headless chicken, panicking both
>     sides in equal measure :-) I like him tbh, but him in particular,
>     and others, give the ball away far too often for my liking.
>     I blame not getting 3 points on the overly cautious tactics once
>     we’d got the second - they were there for the taking, but once again
>     we didn’t go for it - it’s a bad habit, and 1-goal leads often come
>     back to bite you!
>     I can’t really fathom bringing Joseph on ahead of Bamford. Piroe did
>     ok, got a good goal, albeit possibly offside, but Bamford is a far
>     better defender at corners, and better at closing men down. I like
>     the look of Schmidt in the very brief cameos he’s had so far too.
>     Someone posted that the worst we can be after the weekend is 4th, so
>     it’s not all doom and gloom, despite THAT goal.
>     Finally, what a joy it was to see all those Wearside maggots
>     slinking out after 80 minutes, leaving the stands half empty by the
>     end. They knew they’d been tupped!
>>> On 5 Oct 2024, at 11:25, nattan--- via Leedslist
>>     <[3][email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  Its a team game so always hard to blame an individual especially
>     for one error. Having said that it was a huge mistake and very
>     costly since we had no time to change the result Overall Meslier has
>     not been impressive or lived up to his early promise.  His saves /
>     goals xg or whatever it us for keepers has been one of the worst in
>     the division.  At one point something like 16 shots on target from
>     17 went in the net - not greatThe main problem is he is so much
>     better than his would be replacement,  Darlow,  who is awful
>> Whether the 2pts from these games is sufficient only time will
>     tell but we could and should have won them both so there is lots to
>     be happy about especially given our injuries - 2 from 4 wingers out
>     ( hopefully DJ and Solomon will be back for Sheff game) and 2 of 4
>     midfielders out for months Heads up and go again in 2 weeks - hoping
>     that the likes of Tanaka and Aaronson dont suffer on international
>     dutyDave
>>>   On Saturday, 5 October 2024 at 08:48:59 BST,
>>     [4][email protected] <[5][email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, we would have taken a draw before kick off, so there’s that.
>     It is a good result. First points they’ve dropped at home, I think.
>> 
>> And yeah Meslier, something weird happened on the spin / flight of
>     that ball…
>> 
>> But it’s team sport and if we are blaming him for costing us 2
>     points last night, then we are also blaming Aaronson for the 2
>     points lost against Portsmouth, Solomon for the 2 (at least) lost
>     against Burnley, and Rodon against Norwich. Aren’t we?
>> 
>> It’s a good result, especially given our suddenly threadbare
>     midfield.
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
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