Yes, our team is so crap and our goalkeeper such rubbish that we´re top of the division, most goals scored and best goal difference so lets get rid of them all! As for blaming one player for all our problems <cough> Luciano Becchio <cough>, who currently happens to be the Assistant Manager at DC Atletico Baleares here in Mallorca (equivalent to an English League 2 club). Cheers
Graham White -------------------- Mobile (Spain): (0034) 628 13 82 47 On Sunday 5 January 2025 at 19:06:47 CET, Simon McNally via Leedslist <[email protected]> wrote: I don’t think I’ve implied anything like your last paragraph. If we’ve got money to spend I think they should spend it on a new keeper. You don’t - I think you’re wrong. I worry what happens if he makes another error? The crowd will be on his back and if we wait until after January there will be no option other than Darlow. I’m genuinely staggered that you are still trying to defend him - in notice you’ve not managed to provide any examples to back up your misplaced confidence in him. You say you’ve been watching for 50 years. Do you need to check your glasses prescription? For someone who doesn’t like scapegoats you keep mentioning Ampadu. As Rich said he wasn’t great but as he is usually flawless I think he’s got a bit more credit in the bank than a keeper who has made a number of errors. Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Paul Cundell <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 5:55:34 PM To: Simon McNally <[email protected]> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LU] Transfer Window I'd argue that if Ampadu doesn't get caught the wrong side of his man that they don't score at all. I'd also argue that regardless of the scoreline, you don't need any bigger a boost in confidence than being unmarked at the edge of the area for a corner. "He's not solely to blame" and you're "not looking for a scapegoat" but it's all his fault. You want to blame someone and it's him. I think you're wrong and there are deeper problems than that. You imply getting a better keeper is like nipping down Sainsburys for a carrot and think replacing him with a third choice PL goalie who's been benchwarming for their reserves is the solution. On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, 16:46 Simon McNally, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Of course he’s not solely to blame for everything bad that happens. I’d argue that we don’t gift them that second and give them a confidence boost and a way back into the match we run out comfortable winners. You watch games analytically but on the other hand you don’t like stats? How does that work? I’m not trying to make him a scapegoat for all our woes but the Sunderland equliser and the second yesterday are unforgivable for a keeper at this level. If he’s made two of that calibre already this season how many more is he going to make? Can we afford to find out? I’m intrigued by your sweeper comment - can you provide examples that show he’s effective at that? He participates in our build up from the back but I don’t recall too many instances of him sweeping up behind the defence. More often Rodon /Struijk win the ball and play it back to him. I’m not sure how stating a save percentage of 66% is garbage is twisting the facts to suit. That 66% is a fact and it is also a fact that it is the 18th highest amongst championship keepers. I’d say 18th out of 24 was garbage. Certainly for a team chasing promotion. The circumstances one is an interesting point. I think often it’s him dithering on his line or flapping at crosses that creates the problems , I certainly think it contributes to our poor record defending set pieces. Watch him closely next game he plays (hopefully not for us). Count the number of times he claims a cross from a corner or free kick, how many times he’s rooted to his line and how many times he starts to come, hesitates and goes back. I bet there’s very few of the first and a lot of the other two. It’s not that I don’t like him, I just don’t think he’s a very good goalkeeper and I think he has cost us key points and will continue to do so. Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Leedslist <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Paul Cundell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 4:29:14 PM To: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [LU] Transfer Window OK, if I concede that he was at fault for the second, do you concede that it was more than him at fault for the other two and that, therefore, regardless of your low opinion of him, he isn't solely to blame for us dropping 2 points yesterday? He's the second worst at Elland Road? Really? You watched Darlow against Boro? Yes, I do watch games and have watched them for over 50 years but perhaps I watch them with a little more analytical and less knee jerk view than some. I've never sought a scapegoat for our performances but it seems some are only happy when they can blame an individual, perhaps it consoles them to believe there's some easy magic wand way of eradicating the heartache. To me, it's irrational to blame one person for the results of a team game, but to some it's easier to say it's all his fault than look at the actual circumstances that created that "error". Actually, I said you can twist stats to suit and you did just that by claiming that a 66% save rate is garbage. Part of the reason, teams don't get a shot on target is Mesliers role as sweeper, but we'll gloss over that too. You don't like him, we get it. On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, 14:37 Simon McNally, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Are you for real? > Do you actually watch the games? > He’s the second worst keeper I’ve seen at elland road (after the Watford > keeper). > He makes very few saves - you’re not a fan of stats but if you take 3 > shots at him on average one goes in. That can’t be good enough for a team > chasing promotion. > You say I give him no credit for clean sheets - how is he responsible for > them in games where the opposition didn’t get a shot on target? > I find it odd that you are happy with him chucking away points - who else > are you blaming for Sunderland or the second goal yesterday? > He doesn’t command his area - he either dithers on his line or flaps at > crosses (like he did for the third yesterday). > It must be a nightmare playing in front of him. > He used to just let in shots not directly at him but he’s expanded that > this year to ones straight at him (Portsmouth) or to palming the ball out > to opposition players (second yesterday). > > > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P.
