God, I used to have to say that to the people around us all the time when they moaned about Beckford missing all those chances - “if he was a better striker he wouldn’t playing for us in the 2nd / 3rd divisions. FFS”
Yeah both keepers cocked up, without that 2-2… Nick > On 6 Jan 2025, at 11:02, John Lee via Leedslist <[email protected]> wrote: > > As Dave Brennan quipped at a Yeovil game when I was chuntering, the problem > is you’re comparing us to a Premier League team, and we’re not! > > All of our players are very good Championship players; some of them may even > make the step up eventually? I doubt there’s a single player in our squad who > I haven’t thought was a bag of sh*te at some stage? > > Meslier is a pretty decent keeper at Championship level - I genuinely don’t > understand some of his decision making though, and Saturday was another which > baffled me, and cost us a goal, and points. He also makes some great saves, > is pretty good at playing the goalie/sweeper role, and has all the physical > attributes a goalie needs! In short, he’s probably as good an option as we’ll > get at this level. > > He wasn’t alone in costing us points though, but again, we’re a pretty decent > Championship squad, in a great position in the league. The Hull goalie’s pass > to Piroe was another goalkeeping clanger - it happens! > > > >> On 5 Jan 2025, at 21:04, Graham White via Leedslist <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Yes, our team is so crap and our goalkeeper such rubbish that we´re top of >> the division, most goals scored and best goal difference so lets get rid of >> them all! >> As for blaming one player for all our problems <cough> Luciano Becchio >> <cough>, who currently happens to be the Assistant Manager at DC Atletico >> Baleares here in Mallorca (equivalent to an English League 2 club). >> Cheers >> >> Graham White >> -------------------- >> Mobile (Spain): (0034) 628 13 82 47 On Sunday 5 January 2025 at 19:06:47 >> CET, Simon McNally via Leedslist <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I don’t think I’ve implied anything like your last paragraph. >> If we’ve got money to spend I think they should spend it on a new keeper. >> You don’t - I think you’re wrong. >> I worry what happens if he makes another error? The crowd will be on his >> back and if we wait until after January there will be no option other than >> Darlow. >> I’m genuinely staggered that you are still trying to defend him - in notice >> you’ve not managed to provide any examples to back up your misplaced >> confidence in him. You say you’ve been watching for 50 years. Do you need to >> check your glasses prescription? >> For someone who doesn’t like scapegoats you keep mentioning Ampadu. As Rich >> said he wasn’t great but as he is usually flawless I think he’s got a bit >> more credit in the bank than a keeper who has made a number of errors. >> >> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ________________________________ >> From: Paul Cundell <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 5:55:34 PM >> To: Simon McNally <[email protected]> >> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Transfer Window >> >> I'd argue that if Ampadu doesn't get caught the wrong side of his man that >> they don't score at all. >> I'd also argue that regardless of the scoreline, you don't need any bigger a >> boost in confidence than being unmarked at the edge of the area for a corner. >> "He's not solely to blame" and you're "not looking for a scapegoat" but it's >> all his fault. >> You want to blame someone and it's him. I think you're wrong and there are >> deeper problems than that. >> You imply getting a better keeper is like nipping down Sainsburys for a >> carrot and think replacing him with a third choice PL goalie who's been >> benchwarming for their reserves is the solution. >> >> >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, 16:46 Simon McNally, >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Of course he’s not solely to blame for everything bad that happens. >> I’d argue that we don’t gift them that second and give them a confidence >> boost and a way back into the match we run out comfortable winners. >> You watch games analytically but on the other hand you don’t like stats? How >> does that work? >> I’m not trying to make him a scapegoat for all our woes but the Sunderland >> equliser and the second yesterday are unforgivable for a keeper at this >> level. If he’s made two of that calibre already this season how many more is >> he going to make? Can we afford to find out? >> I’m intrigued by your sweeper comment - can you provide examples that show >> he’s effective at that? He participates in our build up from the back but I >> don’t recall too many instances of him sweeping up behind the defence. More >> often Rodon /Struijk win the ball and play it back to him. >> I’m not sure how stating a save percentage of 66% is garbage is twisting the >> facts to suit. >> That 66% is a fact and it is also a fact that it is the 18th highest amongst >> championship keepers. I’d say 18th out of 24 was garbage. Certainly for a >> team chasing promotion. >> The circumstances one is an interesting point. I think often it’s him >> dithering on his line or flapping at crosses that creates the problems , I >> certainly think it contributes to our poor record defending set pieces. >> Watch him closely next game he plays (hopefully not for us). Count the >> number of times he claims a cross from a corner or free kick, how many times >> he’s rooted to his line and how many times he starts to come, hesitates and >> goes back. >> I bet there’s very few of the first and a lot of the other two. >> It’s not that I don’t like him, I just don’t think he’s a very good >> goalkeeper and I think he has cost us key points and will continue to do so. >> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ________________________________ >> From: Leedslist >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on >> behalf of Paul Cundell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 4:29:14 PM >> To: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Transfer Window >> >> OK, if I concede that he was at fault for the second, do you concede that >> it was more than him at fault for the other two and that, therefore, >> regardless of your low opinion of him, he isn't solely to blame for us >> dropping 2 points yesterday? >> He's the second worst at Elland Road? Really? You watched Darlow against >> Boro? >> Yes, I do watch games and have watched them for over 50 years but perhaps I >> watch them with a little more analytical and less knee jerk view than some. >> I've never sought a scapegoat for our performances but it seems some are >> only happy when they can blame an individual, perhaps it consoles them to >> believe there's some easy magic wand way of eradicating the heartache. To >> me, it's irrational to blame one person for the results of a team game, but >> to some it's easier to say it's all his fault than look at the actual >> circumstances that created that "error". >> Actually, I said you can twist stats to suit and you did just that by >> claiming that a 66% save rate is garbage. Part of the reason, teams don't >> get a shot on target is Mesliers role as sweeper, but we'll gloss over that >> too. >> You don't like him, we get it. >> >> >>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, 14:37 Simon McNally, >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Are you for real? >>> Do you actually watch the games? >>> He’s the second worst keeper I’ve seen at elland road (after the Watford >>> keeper). >>> He makes very few saves - you’re not a fan of stats but if you take 3 >>> shots at him on average one goes in. That can’t be good enough for a team >>> chasing promotion. >>> You say I give him no credit for clean sheets - how is he responsible for >>> them in games where the opposition didn’t get a shot on target? >>> I find it odd that you are happy with him chucking away points - who else >>> are you blaming for Sunderland or the second goal yesterday? >>> He doesn’t command his area - he either dithers on his line or flaps at >>> crosses (like he did for the third yesterday). >>> It must be a nightmare playing in front of him. >>> He used to just let in shots not directly at him but he’s expanded that >>> this year to ones straight at him (Portsmouth) or to palming the ball out >>> to opposition players (second yesterday). >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P. _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Martin Brown, a Usual Suspect who gave us Spadge Tours and Team17 R.I.P.
