Your statement that you can use as many commas as you like is not quite correct. Legacy will only recognize 9 levels of a location separated by commas.
Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation [email protected] On 18/11/2010 12:16 PM, Jack Earnshaw wrote: > Jerry > > I don't know where you get the impression that there is a "standard" of four > fields/divisions. OK, Legacy has this sort of default setup, but in reality > you can use as many commas as you like. It is as if somebody says that there > is a standard way of writing your name using 3 fields - first name, middle > name, last name. You'd get pretty annoyed if you had no middle name or had 4 > names in total. > > You say that the data you are using is mainly for England, so why not use the > way that English locations are generally written? You'll find that it won't > make one ha'peth of difference to how it is handled in Legacy, and it will > look so much nicer on reports etc. > > I live in a village and write its location (in postal terms) as Burrington, > Umberleigh, Devon, England or (for most genealogical purposes) as Burrington, > Devon, England. Yes it can be 4 fields, but the 3rd one is the County, not > the State. Just down the road there is the village of Umberleigh itself. So I > would just record that as Umberleigh, Devon, England. In postal terms the > address is the same - just 3 fields. I don't have to leave a blank line on > the envelope. And what about those who live in hamlets outside of a village, > but still in the parish. With 4 fields you'd have nowhere to record it e.g. > Week, Burrington, Umberleigh, Devon, England > > So, as Ron says the right way to record English locations is to do it as it > is done in England. > > There is no "least common denominator", unless you are using that as a > pseudonym for the USA - which is what the 4 field notation was designed for - > and it doesn't always work there either! I seem to remember that least common > denominators related to dividing up similar items, location formats in > different countries are like comparing apples and pears. > > Jack > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 18 November 2010 20:59 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Locations/Places > > Hi Ron, Mike, etal. I understand your position being against the > standard four divisions in the place names, since they don't fit the > UK. However, I think the genealogy software and recommendations have > to go with the LEAST COMMON DENOMINATOR, the same thing we learned in > math class. Most indexes in the genealogy databases will not sort > properly without standardization. > > If a person wants to use the "standard" four divisions with their > locations, how would you suggest they enter an ENGLISH location within > those four divisions? Thanks, --Jerry in Michigan > > On 11/18/2010 4:34 AM, Mike Fry wrote: >> On 2010/11/18 06:29, Chris Clifford wrote: >> >>> I am a new user of Legacy 7. I understand the importance of entering >>> locations consistently; however, the instructions are for town, county, >>> state, country. The majority of my ancestors are from England and a few >>> from >>> Canada. How do I enter these locations, i.e., Lincoln, Lincolnshire, >>> England? If so, isn't there a field missing as Lincolnshire is the county, >>> but there isn't a state or province. Also, what would be the correct entry >>> for Canadian locations; can anyone give me an example? >> First of all - Ignore any recommendations in the documentation! And pay close >> attention to Ron Ferguson :-) >> >> This is all written from a USA point of view and the structure oft-quoted >> doesn't really apply to the UK way of doing things - and the rest of the >> world >> to be strictly accurate. Also, the 4-part location doesn't always fit with >> the >> historic way in which places were named. So, unless you're dead-set on using >> the >> Geo-Database - which only knows about modern names anyway - you are best to >> forget the 4-part thing. >> >> Having said that, I would still advocate the need for consistency to avoid >> unnecessary duplication of locations. I find with UK locations that there is >> a >> need sometimes to distinguish between actual places and general areas. For >> example, parishes that are usually known by the main church in that parish, >> and >> the civil registration districts. Add the occasional need for Hundreds, >> 'real' >> Counties and Poor-Law districts to be thrown into the mix, and it soon >> becomes >> obvious that the "One Size Fits All" approach of the Geo-Database and the >> 4-part >> USA location name, isn't applicable to the UK. >> >> I set my Registration Districts up according to a 3-part formula >> >> e.g. "RD: Walsingham, Norfolk, England" where RD is part of the name in >> order to >> distinguish between this area and the village of the same name. The >> short-form >> can simply be set to "Walsingham (RD)", with no need for the County or >> Country. >> >> Parishes, I simply name according to a 4-part format of >> >> <Church Name>,<Parish>,<County>,<Country> >> >> Oh yes! 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