Thanks Ron. --Jerry On 11/18/2010 2:02 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Jerry, > > I do not use SQL to adjust location details for my website, what you see is > what you get out of the Legacy box. However I am always happy to help with > websites either on or of list - the latter only being for the use of Legacy > in website creation, of course. You may not be aware that we have a forum > in Yahoo Groups for assisting with the development of all aspects of > websites it is Web Users Legacy at: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Locations/Places > > Hi Ron. Believe me, I wish we had the metric system too. You won't > get an argument with me on that! > > I went to your site and saw that your place names are well designed. > However, in your United States' sites, I only see one single instance in > which you showed the county in which a city is located. But the bigger > point is this: Most Legacy users will not have the expertise with SQL > and various programming techniques to sort out their place names and > display them, as you have done, on your website. So, most of us - at > least for now, will have to use the standard practices, "out of the > box," that were already designed by Legacy and the other genealogy > software providers. > > But, if it's ok, I might want to contact you off-line to get some > pointers from you as we further develop our website. Yours looks very > good. --Thanks, Jerry > > On 11/18/2010 11:24 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> I will not suggest how they can be made to fit a convention devised for >> American locations. Our locations do not fit the four field convention and >> when so made to do then the data contained in therein is incorrect. Except >> in America there is no such thing as a "standard" four divisions. >> >> You statement: " >> However, I think the genealogy software and recommendations have >> to go with the LEAST COMMON DENOMINATOR, the same thing we learned in >> math class." >> >> in my view, is in no way applicable (and btw. as somebody who read some >> maths at university I rather suspect it is not entirely applicable in >> maths >> either). What you are suggesting is more like saying Europe should abandon >> the metric system because America uses feet and inches, No way!! >> >> Ron Ferguson >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jerry >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:58 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Locations/Places >> >> Hi Ron, Mike, etal. I understand your position being against the >> standard four divisions in the place names, since they don't fit the >> UK. However, I think the genealogy software and recommendations have >> to go with the LEAST COMMON DENOMINATOR, the same thing we learned in >> math class. Most indexes in the genealogy databases will not sort >> properly without standardization. >> >> If a person wants to use the "standard" four divisions with their >> locations, how would you suggest they enter an ENGLISH location within >> those four divisions? Thanks, --Jerry in Michigan >> >> On 11/18/2010 4:34 AM, Mike Fry wrote: >>> On 2010/11/18 06:29, Chris Clifford wrote: >>> >>>> I am a new user of Legacy 7. I understand the importance of entering >>>> locations consistently; however, the instructions are for town, county, >>>> state, country. The majority of my ancestors are from England and a few >>>> from >>>> Canada. How do I enter these locations, i.e., Lincoln, Lincolnshire, >>>> England? If so, isn't there a field missing as Lincolnshire is the >>>> county, >>>> but there isn't a state or province. Also, what would be the correct >>>> entry >>>> for Canadian locations; can anyone give me an example? >>> First of all - Ignore any recommendations in the documentation! And pay >>> close >>> attention to Ron Ferguson :-) >>> >>> This is all written from a USA point of view and the structure oft-quoted >>> doesn't really apply to the UK way of doing things - and the rest of the >>> world >>> to be strictly accurate. Also, the 4-part location doesn't always fit >>> with >>> the >>> historic way in which places were named. So, unless you're dead-set on >>> using the >>> Geo-Database - which only knows about modern names anyway - you are best >>> to >>> forget the 4-part thing. >>> >>> Having said that, I would still advocate the need for consistency to >>> avoid >>> unnecessary duplication of locations. I find with UK locations that there >>> is a >>> need sometimes to distinguish between actual places and general areas. >>> For >>> example, parishes that are usually known by the main church in that >>> parish, and >>> the civil registration districts. Add the occasional need for Hundreds, >>> 'real' >>> Counties and Poor-Law districts to be thrown into the mix, and it soon >>> becomes >>> obvious that the "One Size Fits All" approach of the Geo-Database and the >>> 4-part >>> USA location name, isn't applicable to the UK. >>> >>> I set my Registration Districts up according to a 3-part formula >>> >>> e.g. "RD: Walsingham, Norfolk, England" where RD is part of the name in >>> order to >>> distinguish between this area and the village of the same name. The >>> short-form >>> can simply be set to "Walsingham (RD)", with no need for the County or >>> Country. >>> >>> Parishes, I simply name according to a 4-part format of >>> >>> <Church Name>,<Parish>,<County>,<Country> >>> >>> Oh yes! Apply the right-to-left sort as well. >>> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > >
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