Bob, you are absolutely correct.  That is the Windows standard.  Jerry

Bob Vary <[email protected]> wrote:

>Whenever I use Access it asks me if I want to save the changes if I press "X". 
> And that's the way any properly designed and written application works.  It 
>will roll back any changes made.  It's always been that way going all the way 
>back to DOS apps.  Why do you think they picked an "X"?  It means get out of 
>here, don't do it.  Just like on a box of poison.  To have it act any other 
>way is counter-intuitive.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:40 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using "x" to exit/cancel - bug?
>
>Bob,
>
>Have you considered that when saving to an Access DB this is done on the
>fly, that is when you make a change it is saved at the time you make the
>change. This is not the same as saving an image or text to file.
>
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Vary
>Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 1:15 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using "x" to exit/cancel - bug?
>
>With all due respect, you're mistaken.  The Windows standard is to exit
>without saving when the "x" is clicked.  Clicking "Apply" saves any changes
>without exiting the dialog and clicking "Save" saves the data and exits.
>Legacy also doesn't always make standard use of the "Apply" button, although
>I can't remember off-hand which dialog gave me trouble and don't have time
>at the moment to research it.
>
>Bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian/Support [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:54 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using "x" to exit/cancel - bug?
>
>A more correct interpretation, and this is throughout Windows not just
>in Legacy, is that the x means apply changes and exit. In other words
>using x is just like using Save.
>
>Brian
>Customer Support
>Millennia Corporation
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>On 21/07/2011 11:09 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
>> In testing using "est" in dates (where "est" is not in the valid list in
>> Help),
>> I discovered a follow-up to an old thread (Nov 2010) about the modified
>> date.
>>
>> The problem noted was that if you clicked the "x" to get out of the Edit
>> Indiv.
>> screen, the modified date was updated.  The (imo blunt) reply was "of
>> course it
>> did... click cancel..." - end of thread.
>>
>> However, what I noticed was that if you entered data and decide not to
>> save it
>> and click "x" to get out, not only is the modified date updated, but the
>> new
>> data is also saved.  I don't think that is the way it should be.
>>
>> IMO, clicking the "x" to get out of something (escape out of something) is
>> pretty standard that you do NOT want it saved.  The converse argument
>> could
>> be "If I'd wanted to save it, I would've clicked "Save." "
>>
>> I think the program should notice whether or not changes were made, then
>> (a) if
>> no changes, don't update modified date, and (b) if changes were made, ask
>> if
>> they want to save them (and update modified date if they do).
>>
>> Sherry or Brian, what do you think?  What was the intent in putting the
>> "x"
>> there instead of forcing a conscious choice of what to do upon exiting?
>> Am I so
>> far off base?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   --Paula in Texas
>
>
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