Dennis,
Legacy Version 7.5.0.112

I have checked the Individual web pages with Sources at the bottom of each
page. I only used 21 people, so it is a limited test, but I did not find
that the Sources accumulated on successive pages. However, I did find that
for each page the Sources were duplicated.

I have requested that the Beta Testers examine my findings, clearly there is
a bug sculling around, and how it manifests may depend on other settings -
apart from setting the Sources to appear on every page, I used the Legacy
defaults.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Sutton
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages

Ron,

    I was able to get the information onto my webpage
(http://njsuttonfamily.org).  I use Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional to
transfer my files.  I routinely run the clean-up that Brian mentioned.

    Let me see if I can explain the other issue better.  To create a web
page I did (Internet>Create Web Page).  Then I completed the set-up
using the Web Page Style "Individual".  I believe the problem I had with
the first page I tried to create was on the tab "Other" I checked
"Include source citations" and hit the button "On each individual's
page".  This place the source on the first page it created, then on the
second page it created it added the source from page 1 and the new
sources for the items on the second page, and continued to do this
through (adding the previous sources) to each new page until it
completed the build.  As I said the file size ended up at 3.4GB.

    The new web page I created I was able to correct the above problem.
The only source records are recorded in a source file.  Thus it is only
34MB in size.

     With this file and a couple of other things I added it took about 1
1/2 hours to download.

      The output looks good.  Still have some clean-up to do.

       I didn't split the families.  This web page consists of all my
Legacy data together.  Hope this clears things a little.

Dennis

On 8/25/2011 3:57 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> Sorry it has taken a while to get back to you but I have been at the Local
> History Library where I had a machine booked for a project I am working
> on.
> I have also split the subject of the topic to try and separate out our
> discussion from the others.
>
> I have not fully absorbed the information which you have given, and all
> may
> become clear as I work through it. However, some points do spring to mind:
> your upload and download speeds are pretty much the same as mine, my
> Pedigree pages are between (roughly) 10 and 15KB per page and I have the
> sources on each page. Because I have a load of stuff in the same folder I
> do
> not know the actual total size but I would think around 110 MB.
>
> I am not clear what type of pages to which you refer  - Pedigree or
> Individual. At one time I used the latter for my One-Name pages with the
> default of 10 names per page, which I later increased, but I cannot check
> the size of these, as I no longer have any on my PC. I would be grateful
> if
> you could clarify what page is meant by :
> " I just created a new web page and found something strange between
> this one and the original I created.  The new page is on 20.4MB vs
> 3.42GB.."
> This is absolutely massive for one page!
>
> Brian's comment is very relevant, and it is a technique which I use if
> everything seems to be slow. Similarly when uploading I suggest that you
> shut down your browser and email client, and close as many programs as
> possible. What is your FTP program btw.?
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Sutton
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>
> Ron,
>
>       I just created a new web page and found something strange between
> this one and the original I created.  The new page is on 20.4MB vs
> 3.42GB..
>
>       I noted on the original file that for each each page created, I
> requested the source be included on the bottom of that page.  However,
> for each record, the source for the previous record was included along
> with the new sources for the new record.  By the  time the last page was
> created it consisted of 9914 source records when in fact it should have
> no source recorded.  The size of these files started at 4KB but with the
> additive sources the file sizes toward the end where 3134KB.
>
>       Furthermore, it also created a separate Source file, containing all
> the sources.  This file was 3201KB
>
>       The page file sizes on the new web page I created are between 4KB
> and 16KB in size and don't have the source at the end of the each page.
> The Source file, is still there and still 3201KB.
>
>       Not sure what I asked for it the set up that presented this the
> first time but apparently I changed that in the 2nd run.
>
>       So I believe I can upload the database a little faster.  I have a
> DSL connection.  My upload is about .40Mbps while the download is
> suppose to 6Mbps.
>
>        I still would like to go back and split my file but have not had
> much success in working through the info contained in Legacy or with
> help from Wendy.
>
>       I'll have to try to upload the new file again to my web page and
> will let you know how long it took.
>
> Dennis
>
> On 8/25/2011 8:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Dennis,
>>
>> In which case 3hrs surprises me, although it does depend on the speed of
>> your broadband and possibly your FTP program. My largest pedigree file is
>> around 9000 and takes nothing like that, not sure how long, maybe 1
>> 1/2hrs,
>> but I will be uploading the lot at the end of this month. My broadband
>> download speed is rated 8mbs (actually 6mbs).
>>
>> You may not be aware that there are ways that enable you to only upload
>> changed files, and although not on topic for this list, they can be
>> discussed on LUG at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis Sutton
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:20 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>>        My single tree file consists of 11176 individuals.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> On 8/25/2011 7:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>> Dennis,
>>>
>>> How big is your single tree?
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dennis Sutton
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:42 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>>
>>> Wendy,
>>>
>>>         I originally had 6 family trees and about a year ago I opted to
>>> combine them into one to make input easier.  I was attempting to upload
>>> the new Legacy tree on my web site, to replace my old TMG program file.
>>> However, because of the size it seems it takes forever to upload.  It
>>> ran for over 3 hours yesterday and still hadn't uploaded.  So I decided
>>> to split the tree back to at least 4 separate files.
>>>
>>>         As I said, I was able to split my wife's family into 2 separate
>>> trees (Eltz and Connor) and appears to have worked.  However, I note
>>> when I run Tree Finder, I am also listed as the only name on both
>>> families.
>>>
>>>         When I tried to split my family family (Sutton and Jones) I
>>> don't
>>> get the nice clean separation that I got with my wife's families.  I
>>> created the new trees starting with my and my wife's parents.  On her
>>> trees her brother and sister are still showing with both parents and I
>>> still show up linked to her through marriage.
>>>
>>>         Don't know if I should show up on my wife's tree with I run Tree
>>> Finder.  I also noted that the RIN numbers when I did the split continue
>>> to be the same as from when I had the single tree, i.e. my father-in-law
>>> was RIN 10318 in the single tree and still the RIN in the Eltz split
>>> file..
>>>
>>>         Really wish I had left the files split early on.  I still have
>>> them
>>> but have added so much more info and did a big source record clean up
>>> that I'm reluctant to revert back to them.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On 8/25/2011 1:40 AM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>>
>>>>> Still sounds confusing but as for running the Tree Finder, the only
>>>>> name
>>>>> which shows up on both family trees is "me".  Would this be correct
>>>>> being
>>>>> I split with the one file at my mother and father and then unlinked my
>>>>> grandparents from each of my parents.
>>>> I don't see how the same person can turn up in two different trees in
>>>> Tree Finder - that doesn't make sense.  Do the two have the same RIN?
>>>>
>>>>> When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a
>>>>> child.
>>>> That's what unlinking does.  If it's not the effect you're after, then
>>>> this isn't the point at which you need to unlink someone.  Not knowing
>>>> your tree, I can't say where the right point is.
>>>>
>>>> Wendy
>>>>



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