Ron,
Yesterday, given the problem I encounter, I close all my programs
down and I did a clean-up on my system (cookies, history, temp files,
etc.) and I deleted the web pages I built. Following that I returned to
Legacy and created a new web page. As I noted his went without a
problem and I was able to upload to my host and am running it now.
I just did another new create web page and again it came up clean
(no extra source files). I think there was a probably residual
files/data left on my Legacy which was causing this data to build and
clearing everything out clean it up.
I'll keep your recommended fix on queue and should I incur the
problem again, I'll try it.
Thanks to you and everyone who helped get this matter resolved.
Dennis
On 8/26/2011 2:07 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>
> Dennis,
>
> Evert came up with the suggestion that worked for me - try using the Reset
> button on the bottom right, or failing that delete the webpages.usr file (it
> will rebuild itself). I really should have thought of that myself - I've
> suggested it often enough!
>
> I would be grateful if you could do a small run and let me know the outcome.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Sutton
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages
>
> Ron,
>
> Thanks for taking a look at that. Appreciate in hearing if they
> found anything that might have caused this.
>
> Dennis
>
> On 8/26/2011 10:29 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Dennis,
>> Legacy Version 7.5.0.112
>>
>> I have checked the Individual web pages with Sources at the bottom of each
>> page. I only used 21 people, so it is a limited test, but I did not find
>> that the Sources accumulated on successive pages. However, I did find that
>> for each page the Sources were duplicated.
>>
>> I have requested that the Beta Testers examine my findings, clearly there
>> is
>> a bug sculling around, and how it manifests may depend on other settings -
>> apart from setting the Sources to appear on every page, I used the Legacy
>> defaults.
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis Sutton
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:57 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> I was able to get the information onto my webpage
>> (http://njsuttonfamily.org). I use Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional to
>> transfer my files. I routinely run the clean-up that Brian mentioned.
>>
>> Let me see if I can explain the other issue better. To create a web
>> page I did (Internet>Create Web Page). Then I completed the set-up
>> using the Web Page Style "Individual". I believe the problem I had with
>> the first page I tried to create was on the tab "Other" I checked
>> "Include source citations" and hit the button "On each individual's
>> page". This place the source on the first page it created, then on the
>> second page it created it added the source from page 1 and the new
>> sources for the items on the second page, and continued to do this
>> through (adding the previous sources) to each new page until it
>> completed the build. As I said the file size ended up at 3.4GB.
>>
>> The new web page I created I was able to correct the above problem.
>> The only source records are recorded in a source file. Thus it is only
>> 34MB in size.
>>
>> With this file and a couple of other things I added it took about 1
>> 1/2 hours to download.
>>
>> The output looks good. Still have some clean-up to do.
>>
>> I didn't split the families. This web page consists of all my
>> Legacy data together. Hope this clears things a little.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> On 8/25/2011 3:57 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>> Dennis,
>>>
>>> Sorry it has taken a while to get back to you but I have been at the
>>> Local
>>> History Library where I had a machine booked for a project I am working
>>> on.
>>> I have also split the subject of the topic to try and separate out our
>>> discussion from the others.
>>>
>>> I have not fully absorbed the information which you have given, and all
>>> may
>>> become clear as I work through it. However, some points do spring to
>>> mind:
>>> your upload and download speeds are pretty much the same as mine, my
>>> Pedigree pages are between (roughly) 10 and 15KB per page and I have the
>>> sources on each page. Because I have a load of stuff in the same folder I
>>> do
>>> not know the actual total size but I would think around 110 MB.
>>>
>>> I am not clear what type of pages to which you refer - Pedigree or
>>> Individual. At one time I used the latter for my One-Name pages with the
>>> default of 10 names per page, which I later increased, but I cannot check
>>> the size of these, as I no longer have any on my PC. I would be grateful
>>> if
>>> you could clarify what page is meant by :
>>> " I just created a new web page and found something strange between
>>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs
>>> 3.42GB.."
>>> This is absolutely massive for one page!
>>>
>>> Brian's comment is very relevant, and it is a technique which I use if
>>> everything seems to be slow. Similarly when uploading I suggest that you
>>> shut down your browser and email client, and close as many programs as
>>> possible. What is your FTP program btw.?
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dennis Sutton
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:48 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> I just created a new web page and found something strange between
>>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs
>>> 3.42GB..
>>>
>>> I noted on the original file that for each each page created, I
>>> requested the source be included on the bottom of that page. However,
>>> for each record, the source for the previous record was included along
>>> with the new sources for the new record. By the time the last page was
>>> created it consisted of 9914 source records when in fact it should have
>>> no source recorded. The size of these files started at 4KB but with the
>>> additive sources the file sizes toward the end where 3134KB.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, it also created a separate Source file, containing
>>> all
>>> the sources. This file was 3201KB
>>>
>>> The page file sizes on the new web page I created are between 4KB
>>> and 16KB in size and don't have the source at the end of the each page.
>>> The Source file, is still there and still 3201KB.
>>>
>>> Not sure what I asked for it the set up that presented this the
>>> first time but apparently I changed that in the 2nd run.
>>>
>>> So I believe I can upload the database a little faster. I have a
>>> DSL connection. My upload is about .40Mbps while the download is
>>> suppose to 6Mbps.
>>>
>>> I still would like to go back and split my file but have not had
>>> much success in working through the info contained in Legacy or with
>>> help from Wendy.
>>>
>>> I'll have to try to upload the new file again to my web page and
>>> will let you know how long it took.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On 8/25/2011 8:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>>> Dennis,
>>>>
>>>> In which case 3hrs surprises me, although it does depend on the speed of
>>>> your broadband and possibly your FTP program. My largest pedigree file
>>>> is
>>>> around 9000 and takes nothing like that, not sure how long, maybe 1
>>>> 1/2hrs,
>>>> but I will be uploading the lot at the end of this month. My broadband
>>>> download speed is rated 8mbs (actually 6mbs).
>>>>
>>>> You may not be aware that there are ways that enable you to only upload
>>>> changed files, and although not on topic for this list, they can be
>>>> discussed on LUG at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/
>>>>
>>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dennis Sutton
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:20 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>>>
>>>> Ron,
>>>>
>>>> My single tree file consists of 11176 individuals.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> On 8/25/2011 7:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>>
>>>>> How big is your single tree?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Dennis Sutton
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:42 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>>>>
>>>>> Wendy,
>>>>>
>>>>> I originally had 6 family trees and about a year ago I opted
>>>>> to
>>>>> combine them into one to make input easier. I was attempting to upload
>>>>> the new Legacy tree on my web site, to replace my old TMG program
>>>>> file..
>>>>> However, because of the size it seems it takes forever to upload. It
>>>>> ran for over 3 hours yesterday and still hadn't uploaded. So I decided
>>>>> to split the tree back to at least 4 separate files.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, I was able to split my wife's family into 2
>>>>> separate
>>>>> trees (Eltz and Connor) and appears to have worked. However, I note
>>>>> when I run Tree Finder, I am also listed as the only name on both
>>>>> families.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I tried to split my family family (Sutton and Jones) I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> get the nice clean separation that I got with my wife's families. I
>>>>> created the new trees starting with my and my wife's parents. On her
>>>>> trees her brother and sister are still showing with both parents and I
>>>>> still show up linked to her through marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't know if I should show up on my wife's tree with I run
>>>>> Tree
>>>>> Finder. I also noted that the RIN numbers when I did the split
>>>>> continue
>>>>> to be the same as from when I had the single tree, i.e. my
>>>>> father-in-law
>>>>> was RIN 10318 in the single tree and still the RIN in the Eltz split
>>>>> file..
>>>>>
>>>>> Really wish I had left the files split early on. I still have
>>>>> them
>>>>> but have added so much more info and did a big source record clean up
>>>>> that I'm reluctant to revert back to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/25/2011 1:40 AM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still sounds confusing but as for running the Tree Finder, the only
>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>> which shows up on both family trees is "me". Would this be correct
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> I split with the one file at my mother and father and then unlinked
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> grandparents from each of my parents.
>>>>>> I don't see how the same person can turn up in two different trees in
>>>>>> Tree Finder - that doesn't make sense. Do the two have the same RIN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a
>>>>>>> child.
>>>>>> That's what unlinking does. If it's not the effect you're after, then
>>>>>> this isn't the point at which you need to unlink someone. Not knowing
>>>>>> your tree, I can't say where the right point is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wendy
>
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