Ron,
Thanks for taking a look at that. Appreciate in hearing if they
found anything that might have caused this.
Dennis
On 8/26/2011 10:29 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Dennis,
> Legacy Version 7.5.0.112
>
> I have checked the Individual web pages with Sources at the bottom of each
> page. I only used 21 people, so it is a limited test, but I did not find
> that the Sources accumulated on successive pages. However, I did find that
> for each page the Sources were duplicated.
>
> I have requested that the Beta Testers examine my findings, clearly there is
> a bug sculling around, and how it manifests may depend on other settings -
> apart from setting the Sources to appear on every page, I used the Legacy
> defaults.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Sutton
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages
>
> Ron,
>
> I was able to get the information onto my webpage
> (http://njsuttonfamily.org). I use Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional to
> transfer my files. I routinely run the clean-up that Brian mentioned.
>
> Let me see if I can explain the other issue better. To create a web
> page I did (Internet>Create Web Page). Then I completed the set-up
> using the Web Page Style "Individual". I believe the problem I had with
> the first page I tried to create was on the tab "Other" I checked
> "Include source citations" and hit the button "On each individual's
> page". This place the source on the first page it created, then on the
> second page it created it added the source from page 1 and the new
> sources for the items on the second page, and continued to do this
> through (adding the previous sources) to each new page until it
> completed the build. As I said the file size ended up at 3.4GB.
>
> The new web page I created I was able to correct the above problem.
> The only source records are recorded in a source file. Thus it is only
> 34MB in size.
>
> With this file and a couple of other things I added it took about 1
> 1/2 hours to download.
>
> The output looks good. Still have some clean-up to do.
>
> I didn't split the families. This web page consists of all my
> Legacy data together. Hope this clears things a little.
>
> Dennis
>
> On 8/25/2011 3:57 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> Dennis,
>>
>> Sorry it has taken a while to get back to you but I have been at the Local
>> History Library where I had a machine booked for a project I am working
>> on.
>> I have also split the subject of the topic to try and separate out our
>> discussion from the others.
>>
>> I have not fully absorbed the information which you have given, and all
>> may
>> become clear as I work through it. However, some points do spring to mind:
>> your upload and download speeds are pretty much the same as mine, my
>> Pedigree pages are between (roughly) 10 and 15KB per page and I have the
>> sources on each page. Because I have a load of stuff in the same folder I
>> do
>> not know the actual total size but I would think around 110 MB.
>>
>> I am not clear what type of pages to which you refer - Pedigree or
>> Individual. At one time I used the latter for my One-Name pages with the
>> default of 10 names per page, which I later increased, but I cannot check
>> the size of these, as I no longer have any on my PC. I would be grateful
>> if
>> you could clarify what page is meant by :
>> " I just created a new web page and found something strange between
>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs
>> 3.42GB.."
>> This is absolutely massive for one page!
>>
>> Brian's comment is very relevant, and it is a technique which I use if
>> everything seems to be slow. Similarly when uploading I suggest that you
>> shut down your browser and email client, and close as many programs as
>> possible. What is your FTP program btw.?
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dennis Sutton
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:48 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> I just created a new web page and found something strange between
>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs
>> 3.42GB..
>>
>> I noted on the original file that for each each page created, I
>> requested the source be included on the bottom of that page. However,
>> for each record, the source for the previous record was included along
>> with the new sources for the new record. By the time the last page was
>> created it consisted of 9914 source records when in fact it should have
>> no source recorded. The size of these files started at 4KB but with the
>> additive sources the file sizes toward the end where 3134KB.
>>
>> Furthermore, it also created a separate Source file, containing all
>> the sources. This file was 3201KB
>>
>> The page file sizes on the new web page I created are between 4KB
>> and 16KB in size and don't have the source at the end of the each page.
>> The Source file, is still there and still 3201KB.
>>
>> Not sure what I asked for it the set up that presented this the
>> first time but apparently I changed that in the 2nd run.
>>
>> So I believe I can upload the database a little faster. I have a
>> DSL connection. My upload is about .40Mbps while the download is
>> suppose to 6Mbps.
>>
>> I still would like to go back and split my file but have not had
>> much success in working through the info contained in Legacy or with
>> help from Wendy.
>>
>> I'll have to try to upload the new file again to my web page and
>> will let you know how long it took.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> On 8/25/2011 8:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>> Dennis,
>>>
>>> In which case 3hrs surprises me, although it does depend on the speed of
>>> your broadband and possibly your FTP program. My largest pedigree file is
>>> around 9000 and takes nothing like that, not sure how long, maybe 1
>>> 1/2hrs,
>>> but I will be uploading the lot at the end of this month. My broadband
>>> download speed is rated 8mbs (actually 6mbs).
>>>
>>> You may not be aware that there are ways that enable you to only upload
>>> changed files, and although not on topic for this list, they can be
>>> discussed on LUG at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dennis Sutton
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:20 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> My single tree file consists of 11176 individuals.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On 8/25/2011 7:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>>>> Dennis,
>>>>
>>>> How big is your single tree?
>>>>
>>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dennis Sutton
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:42 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
>>>>
>>>> Wendy,
>>>>
>>>> I originally had 6 family trees and about a year ago I opted to
>>>> combine them into one to make input easier. I was attempting to upload
>>>> the new Legacy tree on my web site, to replace my old TMG program file.
>>>> However, because of the size it seems it takes forever to upload. It
>>>> ran for over 3 hours yesterday and still hadn't uploaded. So I decided
>>>> to split the tree back to at least 4 separate files.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I was able to split my wife's family into 2 separate
>>>> trees (Eltz and Connor) and appears to have worked. However, I note
>>>> when I run Tree Finder, I am also listed as the only name on both
>>>> families.
>>>>
>>>> When I tried to split my family family (Sutton and Jones) I
>>>> don't
>>>> get the nice clean separation that I got with my wife's families. I
>>>> created the new trees starting with my and my wife's parents. On her
>>>> trees her brother and sister are still showing with both parents and I
>>>> still show up linked to her through marriage.
>>>>
>>>> Don't know if I should show up on my wife's tree with I run Tree
>>>> Finder. I also noted that the RIN numbers when I did the split continue
>>>> to be the same as from when I had the single tree, i.e. my father-in-law
>>>> was RIN 10318 in the single tree and still the RIN in the Eltz split
>>>> file..
>>>>
>>>> Really wish I had left the files split early on. I still have
>>>> them
>>>> but have added so much more info and did a big source record clean up
>>>> that I'm reluctant to revert back to them.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis
>>>>
>>>> On 8/25/2011 1:40 AM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Still sounds confusing but as for running the Tree Finder, the only
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> which shows up on both family trees is "me". Would this be correct
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> I split with the one file at my mother and father and then unlinked my
>>>>>> grandparents from each of my parents.
>>>>> I don't see how the same person can turn up in two different trees in
>>>>> Tree Finder - that doesn't make sense. Do the two have the same RIN?
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a
>>>>>> child.
>>>>> That's what unlinking does. If it's not the effect you're after, then
>>>>> this isn't the point at which you need to unlink someone. Not knowing
>>>>> your tree, I can't say where the right point is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wendy
>>>>>
>
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