Dennis.... That photo on your homepage is wonderful
Tim On 8/26/2011 12:56 PM, Dennis Sutton wrote: > Ron, > > Yesterday, given the problem I encounter, I close all my programs > down and I did a clean-up on my system (cookies, history, temp files, > etc.) and I deleted the web pages I built. Following that I returned to > Legacy and created a new web page. As I noted his went without a > problem and I was able to upload to my host and am running it now. > > I just did another new create web page and again it came up clean > (no extra source files). I think there was a probably residual > files/data left on my Legacy which was causing this data to build and > clearing everything out clean it up. > > I'll keep your recommended fix on queue and should I incur the > problem again, I'll try it. > > Thanks to you and everyone who helped get this matter resolved. > > Dennis > > On 8/26/2011 2:07 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >> >> Dennis, >> >> Evert came up with the suggestion that worked for me - try using the Reset >> button on the bottom right, or failing that delete the webpages.usr file (it >> will rebuild itself). I really should have thought of that myself - I've >> suggested it often enough! >> >> I would be grateful if you could do a small run and let me know the outcome. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dennis Sutton >> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:57 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages >> >> Ron, >> >> Thanks for taking a look at that. Appreciate in hearing if they >> found anything that might have caused this. >> >> Dennis >> >> On 8/26/2011 10:29 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>> Dennis, >>> Legacy Version 7.5.0.112 >>> >>> I have checked the Individual web pages with Sources at the bottom of each >>> page. I only used 21 people, so it is a limited test, but I did not find >>> that the Sources accumulated on successive pages. However, I did find that >>> for each page the Sources were duplicated. >>> >>> I have requested that the Beta Testers examine my findings, clearly there >>> is >>> a bug sculling around, and how it manifests may depend on other settings - >>> apart from setting the Sources to appear on every page, I used the Legacy >>> defaults. >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dennis Sutton >>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:57 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> I was able to get the information onto my webpage >>> (http://njsuttonfamily.org). I use Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional to >>> transfer my files. I routinely run the clean-up that Brian mentioned. >>> >>> Let me see if I can explain the other issue better. To create a web >>> page I did (Internet>Create Web Page). Then I completed the set-up >>> using the Web Page Style "Individual". I believe the problem I had with >>> the first page I tried to create was on the tab "Other" I checked >>> "Include source citations" and hit the button "On each individual's >>> page". This place the source on the first page it created, then on the >>> second page it created it added the source from page 1 and the new >>> sources for the items on the second page, and continued to do this >>> through (adding the previous sources) to each new page until it >>> completed the build. As I said the file size ended up at 3.4GB. >>> >>> The new web page I created I was able to correct the above problem. >>> The only source records are recorded in a source file. Thus it is only >>> 34MB in size. >>> >>> With this file and a couple of other things I added it took about 1 >>> 1/2 hours to download. >>> >>> The output looks good. Still have some clean-up to do. >>> >>> I didn't split the families. This web page consists of all my >>> Legacy data together. Hope this clears things a little. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> On 8/25/2011 3:57 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>> Dennis, >>>> >>>> Sorry it has taken a while to get back to you but I have been at the >>>> Local >>>> History Library where I had a machine booked for a project I am working >>>> on. >>>> I have also split the subject of the topic to try and separate out our >>>> discussion from the others. >>>> >>>> I have not fully absorbed the information which you have given, and all >>>> may >>>> become clear as I work through it. However, some points do spring to >>>> mind: >>>> your upload and download speeds are pretty much the same as mine, my >>>> Pedigree pages are between (roughly) 10 and 15KB per page and I have the >>>> sources on each page. Because I have a load of stuff in the same folder I >>>> do >>>> not know the actual total size but I would think around 110 MB. >>>> >>>> I am not clear what type of pages to which you refer - Pedigree or >>>> Individual. At one time I used the latter for my One-Name pages with the >>>> default of 10 names per page, which I later increased, but I cannot check >>>> the size of these, as I no longer have any on my PC. I would be grateful >>>> if >>>> you could clarify what page is meant by : >>>> " I just created a new web page and found something strange between >>>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs >>>> 3.42GB.." >>>> This is absolutely massive for one page! >>>> >>>> Brian's comment is very relevant, and it is a technique which I use if >>>> everything seems to be slow. Similarly when uploading I suggest that you >>>> shut down your browser and email client, and close as many programs as >>>> possible. What is your FTP program btw.? >>>> >>>> Ron Ferguson >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Dennis Sutton >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:48 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> I just created a new web page and found something strange between >>>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs >>>> 3.42GB.. >>>> >>>> I noted on the original file that for each each page created, I >>>> requested the source be included on the bottom of that page. However, >>>> for each record, the source for the previous record was included along >>>> with the new sources for the new record. By the time the last page was >>>> created it consisted of 9914 source records when in fact it should have >>>> no source recorded. The size of these files started at 4KB but with the >>>> additive sources the file sizes toward the end where 3134KB. >>>> >>>> Furthermore, it also created a separate Source file, containing >>>> all >>>> the sources. This file was 3201KB >>>> >>>> The page file sizes on the new web page I created are between 4KB >>>> and 16KB in size and don't have the source at the end of the each page. >>>> The Source file, is still there and still 3201KB. >>>> >>>> Not sure what I asked for it the set up that presented this the >>>> first time but apparently I changed that in the 2nd run. >>>> >>>> So I believe I can upload the database a little faster. I have a >>>> DSL connection. My upload is about .40Mbps while the download is >>>> suppose to 6Mbps. >>>> >>>> I still would like to go back and split my file but have not had >>>> much success in working through the info contained in Legacy or with >>>> help from Wendy. >>>> >>>> I'll have to try to upload the new file again to my web page and >>>> will let you know how long it took. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On 8/25/2011 8:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>>> Dennis, >>>>> >>>>> In which case 3hrs surprises me, although it does depend on the speed of >>>>> your broadband and possibly your FTP program. My largest pedigree file >>>>> is >>>>> around 9000 and takes nothing like that, not sure how long, maybe 1 >>>>> 1/2hrs, >>>>> but I will be uploading the lot at the end of this month. My broadband >>>>> download speed is rated 8mbs (actually 6mbs). >>>>> >>>>> You may not be aware that there are ways that enable you to only upload >>>>> changed files, and although not on topic for this list, they can be >>>>> discussed on LUG at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ >>>>> >>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Dennis Sutton >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:20 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> My single tree file consists of 11176 individuals. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>>> On 8/25/2011 7:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>>>> Dennis, >>>>>> >>>>>> How big is your single tree? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Dennis Sutton >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:42 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files >>>>>> >>>>>> Wendy, >>>>>> >>>>>> I originally had 6 family trees and about a year ago I opted >>>>>> to >>>>>> combine them into one to make input easier. I was attempting to upload >>>>>> the new Legacy tree on my web site, to replace my old TMG program >>>>>> file.. >>>>>> However, because of the size it seems it takes forever to upload. It >>>>>> ran for over 3 hours yesterday and still hadn't uploaded. So I decided >>>>>> to split the tree back to at least 4 separate files. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I said, I was able to split my wife's family into 2 >>>>>> separate >>>>>> trees (Eltz and Connor) and appears to have worked. However, I note >>>>>> when I run Tree Finder, I am also listed as the only name on both >>>>>> families. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I tried to split my family family (Sutton and Jones) I >>>>>> don't >>>>>> get the nice clean separation that I got with my wife's families. I >>>>>> created the new trees starting with my and my wife's parents. On her >>>>>> trees her brother and sister are still showing with both parents and I >>>>>> still show up linked to her through marriage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't know if I should show up on my wife's tree with I run >>>>>> Tree >>>>>> Finder. I also noted that the RIN numbers when I did the split >>>>>> continue >>>>>> to be the same as from when I had the single tree, i.e. my >>>>>> father-in-law >>>>>> was RIN 10318 in the single tree and still the RIN in the Eltz split >>>>>> file.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Really wish I had left the files split early on. I still have >>>>>> them >>>>>> but have added so much more info and did a big source record clean up >>>>>> that I'm reluctant to revert back to them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/25/2011 1:40 AM, Wendy Howard wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Dennis, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still sounds confusing but as for running the Tree Finder, the only >>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>> which shows up on both family trees is "me". Would this be correct >>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>> I split with the one file at my mother and father and then unlinked >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> grandparents from each of my parents. >>>>>>> I don't see how the same person can turn up in two different trees in >>>>>>> Tree Finder - that doesn't make sense. Do the two have the same RIN? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a >>>>>>>> child. >>>>>>> That's what unlinking does. If it's not the effect you're after, then >>>>>>> this isn't the point at which you need to unlink someone. 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