Ideally I'd like to have some locations with 4 position fields and some
with 5 position fields.

He where I'm confused.

I'll create 2 new locations one with 5 fields and one with 4, next 2 lines
city, admin, county, state, country
city, county, state, country

Now I go to View->Master Lists->Locations

I do a sort trying each of the following
Position 4, Position 3, Position 2, Position 1
also
Position 5, Position 4, Position 3, Position 2, Position 1

in both of the above the country fields are in different places of the
sorted lists.

With a large number of locations some 4, some 5 positions, things don't
line up, when sorting country, state, county.

Forcing 5 fields to 4 or adding a fifth field to all my US locations,
would allow me to sort via any field.

Yes it's a kludge to force 5 into 4.
But then sorting shows variations grouped together.

I would think my rough spec would allow greater input variations.

Even for those who have US only locations the ability to add 5th field
for some entries, while keeping most at 4 would give ability to add
Hospital, City, County, State, Country
Cemetary, City, County, State, Country
Address, City, County, State, Country
City, County, State, Country

then allowing one to sort Country, State, County and have things line up.

Sorry about the misconception,  with the way things are coded and for
sorting to work, to me it seems like one needs to force all locations
either to 4 or 5 positions.








On 3/11/2012 7:58 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> John,
> Please see below,
> *From:* John Magyari <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:07 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields
> vs 4 Fields
> Thanks for everyone's ideas.
> Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions
>
> I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4.  Having same
> number of fields helps with sorting.
> So you believe in having inaccurate records in your file, merely to
> fit artificial American situations?
>
>
> Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field MAX.Â
> Then if entered with less fields specify which fields to become null.
> ie. MaxPositions = 5,  LessPositionOrder if less 2,3if less than MAX
> ie For Me for Poland
> city, administration, county, state, country (1,2,3,4,5)
> If less fields entered enter Nulls
> city, county, state, country (Null 1 field - admin)
> city, state, country (Null other 2 fields -admin, county)
> city, state (Null other 3 fields)
> state (Null other 4 fields)
> Absolutely *wrong* This gives no consideration whatsoever to the
> accurate location as determined by the in country in which the
> location is placed. This will perpetuate, what has recently been a
> decreasing trend, of putting square pegs into round holes. Perhaps
> America should change its way of recording locations?
>
> I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with
> fewer positions to 4 position system.
> John, you, of course, can do as you wish, but please do not even hint
> at forcing your misconceptions onto the rest of us.
>
> john
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/11/2012 4:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
>> John,
>> Â
>> By all means use the American four field standard for American
>> locations, but for other countries use their own formats, normally
>> the way in which they are written.
>> Â
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>> Â
>> Â
>> *From:* John Magyari <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs
>> 4 Fields
>> Â
>> Typically for US locations i have ****4 FIELDS
>> City, County, State, Country
>>
>> How do others handle European Countries?
>>
>> For example I have a village in Poland Area
>>
>> 1900's part of Austria Hungary
>>
>> Village, District, Province, Country ****4 FIELDS
>> Lipowiec, Sanok District, Galicia Province, Austria-Hungary
>>
>> Same place in 1940's ****4 FIELDS
>> Lipowiec, Sanok District, Krosno Voivodeship, Poland
>>
>> Almost all places in Current Day Poland 1950's through today *****5
>> FIELDS
>> City, Gmina, County, Voivodeship, COUNTRY
>> Lipowiec, Dukla Gmina, Krosno County
>> <wlmailhtml:/wiki/Krosno_County>, Subcarpathian Voivodeship
>> <wlmailhtml:/wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, Poland
>>
>> and since 2012 *****5 Fields
>> Lipowiec, Jasliska Gmina, Krosno County
>> <wlmailhtml:/wiki/Krosno_County>, Subcarpathian Voivodeship
>> <wlmailhtml:/wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, Poland
>>
>> When some locations ideally be 5 FIELDS, do you go back and update
>> those with 4 Fields?
>>
>> With some having 4 some having 5 it's also harder sorting and then
>> viewing similar towns over time periods.
>>
>> thanks,
>> john magyari
>>
>
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