Hi Ron. I guess it will never be settled unless they come up with some kind of standard that works for all of us. To me it is ugly to have dis-similar entities sort with each other, but I was hopeful that someone who uses the right to left method would tell me how I could still sort correctly and use the varied system. As far as I can tell, it is not possible, so I can very easily live with the extra commas to create the kind of "like" sorting that I am committed to seeing.
Forcing Europe into the "standard" four positions - simply works and works well. I'm sorry you are offended by it. For Europe, for example, I never have a division immediately next to England, for example, because I know you never use STATES or PROVINCES and I have reserved the THIRD division from the left for STATES or PROVINCES. Like I say, it simply works and I haven't seen anything that works better, but if you could show me how, I would change. Sorry, I'm just going to let it rest unless a new person asks the question again and then I'll try to contact them off-line. Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 03/11/2012 06:20 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Jerry, > > If a blank between two commas doesn't signify that something is missing, > then it signifies nothing at all. In which case, as you say, it is simply > there to force a correct location into an incorrect location just to make > something look pretty. Frankly I find such constructs both confusing to > those unfamiliar with the location, and anything but pretty - I think that > they are ugly. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 > Fields > > I don't agree that just because you have a space between two commas, it > has to imply that something is missing. Sure it can be, but for those > of us who want a very organized approach, it just makes sense because it > does allow one to sort by the various divisions, whenever they apply. > > If you can truly do that with a right to left sort without regard to how > many divisions are used, can someone provide some concrete examples on a > website or a snippet of your Legacy code off-line or something? I > really don't mean to be hard-headed on this, but I've so far not seen > sorting work so well without the standard divisions. > > Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org > > On 03/11/2012 08:52 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: >> On 11/03/2012 12:07, John Magyari wrote: >>> Thanks for everyone's ideas. >>> Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions >>> >>> I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4. >>> Having same >>> number >>> of fields helps with sorting. >>> >>> Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field >>> MAX. >>> Then if entered with less fields specify which fields to become null. >>> ie. MaxPositions = 5, LessPositionOrder if less >>> 2,3if less than MAX >>> ie For Me for Poland >>> city, administration, county, state, country (1,2,3,4,5) >>> If less fields entered enter Nulls >>> city, county, state, country (Null 1 field - admin) >>> city, state, country (Null other 2 fields -admin, county) >>> city, state (Null other 3 fields) >>> state (Null other 4 fields) >>> >>> >>> I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with >>> fewer positions to 4 position system. >> >> Surely the aim should always be to enter *accurate* information and you >> are not doing that. >> >> If you are "forcing" 5 elements into 4, are you implying that, there is >> a place called "Village Town", when in fact it is a place called >> "Village" with a place called "Town"? And if you make a 3-element >> location fit 4 fields, you are presumably adding an extra comma >> somewhere which inevitably implies that there is a missing element, but >> in your case there isn't! >> >> Because I include complete addresses in the location field, I have >> anywhere from 1 element (only know the country) to 6 or 7 elements in a >> location. If I want to see them grouped together I sort them from right >> to left. It's not a problem. >> > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
