The major question is  - did you buy this as a genealogy program, or as a
web site development program?

I believe the programmers are going to serve their bread and butter first
(genealogy) and anything else ( webpage development) second,.

I also happen to be one of those who have worked for both software and
website developers. Their needs and processes were much different from each
other.

I bought Legacy first to handle my genealogy needs - and anything else is
frosting.

Cheers!

Jackie


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Ward Walker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kathy and Cheryl,
>
> I don't agree. In any good software development organization, there is a
> process for requirements engineering. The programmers do not necessarily
> have to be subject matter experts, but others in the organization take in
> all the inputs from marketing, sales, support, testing, and users and
> create
> specifications for new features, minor enhancements, and even non-trivial
> defect repairs. The programmers can help refine the specs, based on what is
> feasible, but they don't own the product requirements.
>
> And what are the requirements? I think that the LUG community mostly agrees
> that Millennia should not devote too much effort to things like word
> processing features and fancy web page design. But there is a difference
> between a 'plain vanilla' web site and one that is difficult to read.
>
> I realize that Millennia is a small shop and some of the above roles are
> combined. But something like unbalanced font sizes can be fixed if the
> people responsible for user requirements make it a priority. It doesn't
> matter if the programmer who first implemented it failed to appreciate that
> it looked bad, especially if the cause was a defect (e.g., incorrectly
> nested html tables).
>
>    Ward
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: singhals
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:29 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages
>
> Yes, lordy!
>
> In addition to all Kathy's excellent points, some people
> don't like double-dutch-rockyroad-raspberry-swirl. Plain
> vanilla websites may not win design awards or many "likes"
> but they DO transmit information.
>
> Cheryl
>
> Kathy Thompson wrote:
> > or perhaps the programmers are programmers and not web
> > designers.
> >
> > The two professions are totally different really - asking a
> > programmer to build a website would be like asking the
> > toaster to make the bread.
> > But yes, there are people out there who have the brain
> > skills to train and successfully do both, but perhaps we
> > don't have them on our Legacy team.
> >
> >  From a personal point of view of the situation, and knowing
> > how much work goes into building just a basic site, and also
> > knowing how many different browsers there are and how often
> > they change and update, and how many different screen sizes
> > and operating systems and ..... I could go on but I won't, I
> > feel that although the website they have created is basic,
> > it suits the purpose of providing an HMTL format for webpage
> > display of a family tree.
> > They have provided us with the ability to have a surname
> > index that links directly to each possible person, they've
> > provided us with different pages for each generation,
> > they've even provided us with the ability to customise
> > background colour and different images for different
> > reasons, they've even provided us with the choice of
> > Ancestor or Generation, if we want living people included or
> > suppressed.
> >
> > If I personally sat down and created these pages from
> > scratch, and I know how to create webpages and websites, I'd
> > be easily looking at working at it non-stop for close to 4
> > weeks, to write the code, to de-bug the code, to make sure
> > it worked with different sizes and configurations of family
> > trees, and to ensure it worked across multiple browsers,
> > operating systems and monitor sizes.
> > And that's without then writing it all into the program so
> > it can do it all for us in less than a minute.
> >
> > Now, if I have offended or upset anyone my my response here,
> > I am sorry, but having done University studies in both
> > programming and web design, and realising the Web Design was
> > hard enough and that programming wasn't for me, I do feel
> > that I have half an idea of what the Legacy team are going
> > through, and nagging really doesn't help.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 September 2013 18:20, Mary Young <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     IMHO, this problem of inappropriate *relative* font
> >     sizes, is not helped by increasing Zoom of the entire
> >     web page. By the time the text in "Family Links" is
> >     readable, the headers go from "large" to "ridiculously
> >     large" etc. ..
> >     My Legacy website was created in April 2006 and I've
> >     found the unbalanced appearance of the font sizes
> >     annoying from day one - as have others posting to the
> >     Group.  The problem could best be addressed by the
> >     programmers. It would seem fairly simple to alter the
> >     coding for a simple change to fixed, more balanced font
> >     sizes (offering user-defined sizes would I assume be
> >     more complicated).
> >     Requests for a fix have been made over the years, but it
> >     seems the programmers are not sufficiently interested in
> >     presenting the program's best face via our Legacy websites.
> >     Mary Young
>
>
>
>
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