Hi Paul, You said 'use in anger' is a common enough phrase. FYI - I am a 66 year old American if that makes a difference and I had never heard this phrase used in this manner so I Googled it here http://www.englishforums.com/English/SourceExpressionAnger/jkkzb/post.htm
Now I understand what you were saying. I too read this as you were using Legacy with disdain. Remember these User Group lists are international and not everyone understands all the phraseology in every post.. Rarely do the majority of people on this list criticize others. I have received more support from this list than any other I have used. Give it a chance and I think you will agree. Larry Lee On Nov 20, 2013 6:24 AM, "Paul Richardson" <[email protected]> wrote: > What's this, pick on a new user and new member to the forum! > > Ron, when I said 'use in anger' was wasn't referring to me being angry, > just the fact I'm trying to use the program to its fullest capability. It's > a common enough phrase. > > I e-mailed my problem to the forum hoping to find other people who've > encountered similar issues with book reports and perhaps receive practical > and useful advice. Instead it seems some people have nothing better to do > other than criticise and what I say and my experience so far with Legacy. > If this is the purpose of the forum then I'm very disappointed and will > probably unsubscribe. > > I didn't think my question was unreasonable and I certainly didn't expect > criticism. > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Ron Bernier > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> You keep saying that you are using the program in anger. If Legacy or >> any program is causing you anger, then don't use it. Nobody is forcing you >> to use a program in anger. You claim to be a programmer, maybe you can >> write your own program that will not cause any anger for you. >> >> Ron Bernier >> Woonsocket, RI >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Paul Richardson < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> We use doxygen for producing some pretty decent looking manuals for our >>> software products. I agree its not the easiest to use, and can be a bit >>> quirky at times but in the end it works and it means every time a change is >>> made to the software the manual reflects this change provided the >>> developers follow a simple set of rules. In this way the manual is always >>> up to date and matches the software. >>> >>> In the case of family research, its all very well collecting lots of >>> facts and spending lots of money in researching ancestors, storing it away >>> in some database, but until you publish this information in some way, >>> either on the internet or in a book, then no one else in your family is >>> aware of the extend and wealth of knowledge you've discovered and there-in >>> lies the crux of family history. >>> >>> I've only used 2 family history packages in anger. Generations which is >>> no more and Legacy. I bought Legacy because of the reviews which indicated >>> it was the best of all of them at producing reports, but the issues I have >>> found by trying to use it in anger has left me wondering that if this is >>> the best, then there's a heck of long way to go. >>> >>> Based on my recent experiences I think I'll submit some of the issues >>> encountered to the Legacy developers. >>> >>> regards >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Mike Fry <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2013/11/20 03:14, Paul Richardson wrote: >>>> >>>> > I'm not keen on generating pdfs or rtfs and then re-editing docs. >>>> after all >>>> > what's the point of the publishing center if thats what you have to >>>> resort to. I >>>> > also work as a software engineer and I'm used to using tools that >>>> generate >>>> > manuals from basic text and information in the code, so if we can do >>>> this for >>>> > the software industry I'd have though it could have been done in >>>> Legacy as well. >>>> >>>> For the price, what you get with Legacy is cheap. If you want something >>>> a bit >>>> more professional-looking, the solution is going to cost you money that >>>> you >>>> could probably better spend on more research. >>>> >>>> As for your throw-away comment concerning tools within software for >>>> generating >>>> documentation... I'm also a developer and the general-purpose tools >>>> built-in to >>>> development software are in my opinion, largely, a piece of crap! There >>>> is >>>> nothing that couldn't be improved with the judicious use of a good >>>> Technical Writer. >>>> >>>> Same goes for Legacy. If you want something that looks good, you have >>>> to do some >>>> extra work to achieve it. Legacy is never going to write your books for >>>> you. All >>>> it can do is lift the basic information out of the database in a >>>> semi-presentable form that can be further manipulated. After all, the >>>> main >>>> raison-d'etre for Legacy is the database and the recording of facts >>>> discovered >>>> through research. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Mike Fry >>>> Johannesburg (g) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >>>> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >>> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and >> on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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