Kurt, With respect it is our country, and our right to determine who we are and where we are.
We are a country with a long history and a multicultural one at that, which does mean that we have inconsistencies in the way we name places. It is not in our nature to look down on the new world, who, like children, think they know it all, and in their ignorance believe that they are always right. You see we have no need, we know who we are. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Kurt Kneeland <kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >OK, this little blurb explains why the British Crown Dependencies and the >British Overseas Territories are technically not part of the United Kingdom, >but they are part of “The Crown” and there is still some support and oversight >provided by the UK. I think it is still fair to treat them as second-level >entities under the UK umbrella. > > > >From: Boyd Miller [mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz] >Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:45 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event > > > >Perhaps they should consider this. Britain for he uninitiated >http://explore.noodle.org/post/21512465875/because-one-must-know-the-difference-between-the > >Boyd > > > >On 6/12/2013 3:52 p.m., Bryan Pratt wrote: > >Ron, I think I’ll enshrine that reply on the wall. Said with monarchic >suave. I don’t think we’ll ever teach the Americans geography. Sufficient >to know that we know better. > > > >Bryan > >NZ > >(and thanks, Shirley) > > > >Sent from Windows Mail > > > >From: Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy....@tiscali.co.uk> >Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎December‎ ‎6‎, ‎2013 ‎2‎:‎21‎ ‎PM >To: Legacy <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> > > > >Oh, Aye, > > > >Thanks, Shirley. > > > >Ron Ferguson > >http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > > > > >From: Shirley Richardson <mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz> > >Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:39 AM > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event > > > >Thankyou Ron, I was waiting for you to step in, knowing your explanation would >be far greater than mine. > > > >(I think shore was meant to be short) > > > >Regards > >Shirley > >NZ > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy....@tiscali.co.uk> > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > >Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:17 PM > >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event > > > > > >Oh dear, John. There are times when I wonder where you are coming from. Take >your first two paragraphs, you mention Georgia as being an exception, you >may be right, I don’t know, or even care, but the rest of the world do not >know what states the abbreviations stand for. Then you go on “That said, >leaving out the country name in the US, is sort of chauvinisticâ€, well it is >not sort of chauvinistic – it is! > > > >You go on with respect to ourselves, The Brits, and Ireland: > > > >“I personally append country UK to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern >Ireland, Channel Islands, Isle of Mann, and Ireland (pre-independence) and use >those country names as States. (The GeoDB allows for this...) However, in the >shore name, I clip off the ", UK" as that reads better in reports.†> > > >Well, I don’t know what a “shore name is, perhaps an American GeoDB >invention to cover countries which do not fit the American pattern. But then I >don’t use the Geo9DB for anywhere outside of the USA, because for most >places it doesn’t work. > > > >You illustrate this perfectly by adding UK to its constituent COUNTRIES, and >even worse append it to two countries that are not, and never had been part of >the UK viz. The Isle of Man and the Channel Isles. > > > >For Information, We are The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern >Ireland. The geographical area (not political nor state) of Great Britain >comprises England, Scotland and Wales. Got it – A united *kingdom* – a >place united under a king (or to be non-sexist a monarchy). > > > >The Principality of Wales was created by William 1 who gave it to his son. and >subsequently Scotland in 1707 and Ireland joined, initially the Kingdom of GB >and subsequently the UK. > > > >I very much regret if the facts interfere with convenience, but then we have >never accepted the rewriting of history by anyone. > > > >Ron Ferguson > >http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > > > > >From: John B. Lisle <mailto:leg...@tqsi.com> > >Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:48 PM > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event > > > >Paula, > >I think with the exception of Georgia, the names of the states in the US are >different from any current country in the world, so the confusion should be >minimal when leaving out the country for US locations. > >That said, leaving out the country name in the US, is sort of chauvinistic. >but is reasonable if the bulk of your audience is US based. > >I personally append country UK to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, >Channel Islands, Isle of Mann, and Ireland (pre-independence) and use those >country names as States. (The GeoDB allows for this...) However, in the shore >name, I clip off the ", UK" as that reads better in reports. > >Global organizations like FamilySearch will require the United States be >added. It is all personal choice in the long run, unless you are working as a >professional for a client and have to conform to their standards. > >The key is to be consistent. They you can change it more easily! > >john. > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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