Accuracy is of the utmost importance in genealogy. Without that, we in the United State of America could be considered British, and Maine still part of Massachusetts!
Try this for clarity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:British_Isles_Euler_diagram_15.svg CE From: kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:14:22 -0600 OK, this little blurb explains why the British Crown Dependencies and the British Overseas Territories are technically not part of the United Kingdom, but they are part of “The Crown” and there is still some support and oversight provided by the UK. I think it is still fair to treat them as second-level entities under the UK umbrella. From: Boyd Miller [mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:45 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event Perhaps they should consider this. Britain for he uninitiated http://explore.noodle.org/post/21512465875/because-one-must-know-the-difference-between-theBoyd On 6/12/2013 3:52 p.m., Bryan Pratt wrote:Ron, I think I’ll enshrine that reply on the wall. Said with monarchic suave. I don’t think we’ll ever teach the Americans geography. Sufficient to know that we know better. BryanNZ(and thanks, Shirley) Sent from Windows Mail From: Ron Ferguson Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎December‎ ‎6‎, ‎2013 ‎2‎:‎21‎ ‎PM To: Legacy Oh, Aye, Thanks, Shirley. Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/  From: Shirley Richardson Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:39 AMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event Thankyou Ron, I was waiting for you to step in, knowing your explanation would be far greater than mine. (I think shore was meant to be short)  RegardsShirleyNZ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:17 PMSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event  Oh dear, John. There are times when I wonder where you are coming from. Take your first two paragraphs, you mention Georgia as being an exception, you may be right, I don’t know, or even care, but the rest of the world do not know what states the abbreviations stand for. Then you go on “That said, leaving out the country name in the US, is sort of chauvinisticâ€, well it is not sort of chauvinistic – it is! You go on with respect to ourselves, The Brits, and Ireland: “I personally append country UK to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Channel Islands, Isle of Mann, and Ireland (pre-independence) and use those country names as States. (The GeoDB allows for this...) However, in the shore name, I clip off the ", UK" as that reads better in reports.â€Â Well, I don’t know what a “shore name is, perhaps an American GeoDB invention to cover countries which do not fit the American pattern. But then I don’t use the Geo9DB for anywhere outside of the USA, because for most places it doesn’t work. You illustrate this perfectly by adding UK to its constituent COUNTRIES, and even worse append it to two countries that are not, and never had been part of the UK viz. The Isle of Man and the Channel Isles. For Information, We are The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The geographical area (not political nor state) of Great Britain comprises England, Scotland and Wales. Got it – A united *kingdom* – a place united under a king (or to be non-sexist a monarchy). The Principality of Wales was created by William 1 who gave it to his son. and subsequently Scotland in 1707 and Ireland joined, initially the Kingdom of GB and subsequently the UK. I very much regret if the facts interfere with convenience, but then we have never accepted the rewriting of history by anyone. Ron Fergusonhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/  From: John B. Lisle Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:48 PMTo: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event Paula, I think with the exception of Georgia, the names of the states in the US are different from any current country in the world, so the confusion should be minimal when leaving out the country for US locations. That said, leaving out the country name in the US, is sort of chauvinistic. but is reasonable if the bulk of your audience is US based. I personally append country UK to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Channel Islands, Isle of Mann, and Ireland (pre-independence) and use those country names as States. (The GeoDB allows for this...) However, in the shore name, I clip off the ", UK" as that reads better in reports. Global organizations like FamilySearch will require the United States be added. It is all personal choice in the long run, unless you are working as a professional for a client and have to conform to their standards. The key is to be consistent. They you can change it more easily! john. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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