Kurt,

I have an excellent site which shows how to work this out. However, it is the 
middle of the night here, and I am on my mobile in bed!

Don't ask - I slept all evening. Anyhow I will be happy to send the URL in a 
few hours.


Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

Kurt Kneeland <kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I could still use a good reference for finding correct names not just at top 
>levels, but down to the county/shire and town/village levels.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy....@tiscali.co.uk]
>Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:05 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event
>
>
>
>Kurt,
>
>With respect it is our country, and our right to determine who we are and 
>where we are.
>
>We are a country with a long history and a multicultural one at that, which 
>does mean that we have inconsistencies in the way we name places.
>
>It is not in our nature to look down on the new world, who, like children, 
>think they know it all, and in their ignorance believe that they are always 
>right.
>
>You see we have no need, we know who we are.
>
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>Kurt Kneeland <kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>OK, this little blurb explains why the British Crown Dependencies and the 
>British Overseas Territories are technically not part of the United Kingdom, 
>but they are part of “The Crown” and there is still some support and oversight 
>provided by the UK.  I think it is still fair to treat them as second-level  
>entities under the UK umbrella.
>
>
>
>From: Boyd Miller [mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz]
>Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:45 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event
>
>
>
>Perhaps they should consider this. Britain for he uninitiated
>http://explore.noodle.org/post/21512465875/because-one-must-know-the-difference-between-the
>
>Boyd
>
>On 6/12/2013 3:52 p.m., Bryan Pratt wrote:
>
>Ron, I think I’ll enshrine that reply on the wall. Said with monarchic 
>suave. I don’t think we’ll ever teach the Americans geography. Sufficient 
>to know that we know better.
>
>
>
>Bryan
>
>NZ
>
>(and thanks, Shirley)
>
>
>
>Sent from Windows Mail
>
>
>
>From:Â Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy....@tiscali.co.uk>
>Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎December‎ ‎6‎, ‎2013 ‎2‎:‎21‎ ‎PM
>To:Â Legacy <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
>
>
>
>Oh, Aye,
>
>Â
>
>Thanks, Shirley.
>
>Â
>
>Ron Ferguson
>
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>Â
>
>Â
>
>From: Shirley Richardson <mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz>
>
>Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:39 AM
>
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event
>
>Â
>
>Thankyou Ron, I was waiting for you to step in, knowing your explanation would 
>be far greater than mine.
>
>Â
>
>(I think shore was meant to be short)
>
>Â
>
>Regards
>
>Shirley
>
>NZ
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy....@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
>Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:17 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event
>
>Â
>
>Â
>
>Oh dear, John. There are times when I wonder where you are coming from. Take 
>your first  two paragraphs, you mention Georgia as being an exception, you 
>may be right, I don’t know, or even care, but the rest of the world do not 
>know what states the abbreviations stand for. Then you go on “That said, 
>leaving out the country name in the US, is sort of chauvinistic”, well it is 
>not sort of chauvinistic – it is!
>
>Â
>
>You go on with respect to ourselves, The Brits, and Ireland:
>
>Â
>
>“I personally append country UK to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern 
>Ireland, Channel Islands, Isle of Mann, and Ireland (pre-independence) and use 
>those country names as States. (The GeoDB allows for this...) However, in the 
>shore name, I clip off the ", UK" as that reads better in reports.”
>
>Â
>
>Well, I don’t know what a “shore name is, perhaps an American GeoDB 
>invention to cover countries which do not fit the American pattern. But then I 
>don’t use the  Geo9DB for anywhere outside of the USA, because for most 
>places it doesn’t work.
>
>Â
>
>You illustrate this perfectly by adding UK to its constituent COUNTRIES, and 
>even worse append it to two countries that are not, and never had been part of 
>the UK viz. The Isle of Man and the Channel Isles.
>
>Â
>
>For Information, We are The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern 
>Ireland. The geographical area (not political nor state) of Great Britain 
>comprises England, Scotland and Wales. Got it – A united *kingdom* – a 
>place united under a king (or to be non-sexist a monarchy).
>
>Â
>
>The Principality of Wales was created by William 1 who gave it to his son. and 
>subsequently Scotland in 1707 and Ireland joined, initially the Kingdom of GB 
>and subsequently the UK.
>
>Â
>
>I very much regret if the facts interfere with convenience, but then we have 
>never accepted the rewriting of history by anyone.
>
>Â
>
>Ron Ferguson
>
>http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>Â
>
>Â
>
>From: John B. Lisle <mailto:leg...@tqsi.com>
>
>Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:48 PM
>
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location as a Cemetery Event
>
>Â
>
>Paula,
>
>I think with the exception of Georgia, the names of the states in the US are 
>different from any current country in the world, so the confusion should be 
>minimal when leaving out the country for US locations.
>
>That said, leaving out the country name in the US, is sort of chauvinistic. 
>but is reasonable if the bulk of your audience is US based.
>
>I personally append country UK to England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, 
>Channel Islands, Isle of Mann, and Ireland (pre-independence) and use those 
>country names as States. (The GeoDB allows for this...) However, in the shore 
>name, I clip off the ", UK" as that reads better in reports.
>
>Global organizations like FamilySearch will require the United States be 
>added. It is all personal choice in the long run, unless you are working as a 
>professional for a client and have to conform to their standards.
>
>The key is to be consistent. They you can change it more easily!
>
>john.
>
>
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